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 Pseudolyciella subpallidiventris group
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 05-03-2012 23:17
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 Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Who knows the name of this fly...? Found 15-05-2010 in Zeist , Holland hedy2411 attached the following image:  [54.78Kb] Edited by hedy2411 on 07-03-2012 10:50 |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 05-03-2012 23:49
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I think Pseudolyciella subpallidiventris (Lauxaniidae) |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-03-2012 12:23
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19349 Joined: 11.05.04 |
pallidiventris group female; I have never met anyone capable of telling females apart, but perhaps you can enlighten me? 
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 06-03-2012 14:49
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 Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
I'm with Paul on this one. pallidiventris group I think it should be possible to separate females one day - but work is needed here. Mark |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-03-2012 15:59
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19349 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Well, actually I think the males are not always as clearcut as the illustrations with the descriptions pretend them to be. Relative lengths of the surstyli show some variation and that gives me an eery feeling as I think I had the three species from a single locality on a single day, too... But as Mark stated above, 'work is needed here' and I need to check that.
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 07-03-2012 10:52
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Hello Joke, Paul and Mark, Thank you for making this topic!! Regards, Hedy |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 08-03-2012 13:25
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2135 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Yep, I have the same experience Paul describes, which makes me wonder if we are really dealing with more species or just one species with considerable intraspecific variation.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-03-2012 16:57
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19349 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I have suggested the latter for about twenty years... 
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