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Lauxaniidae from 29.09.10 #2: Pseudolyciella? --> P. stylata group
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Hello!

Another 4 mm fly from a hedge (northwest Germany).
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It looks like a Pseudolyciella stylata group
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rvanderweele wrote:
It looks like a Pseudolyciella stylata group


Many thanks, Ruud.
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I agree with RUUD Smile
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Katerina Dvorakova wrote:
I agree with RUUD Smile


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But, as far as I know, it is usually called the pallidiventris group...
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To this group belong pallidiventris, subpallidiventris en stylata I believe. I didn't now that it was called pallidiventris group, any way I cannot recall to have read it. Yet, Paul, when you say so, I am convinced you are right. I just called it stylata group for the simple fact that in my key first stylata is treated and that by chance I had some stylata in front of me last week.
Is there a rule for giving names to species-groups? Is it pallidiventris, because it was the first species to have been described (I believe by Fallen, I think, I have no lit. here)?

Now I am really going to hit the road.
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In the days we did not have Pseudolyciella I think the group was refered to as the Lyciella pallidiventris group, probably because that was the oldest described species in it. These days we have Pseudolyciella with 5 Palaearctic species, of which three have a greyish mesonotum and two a yellowish mesonotum with 1 or 3 vitae. The ones with greyish mesonotum are the old Lyciella pallidiventris group.
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