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 Phaonia gobertii (ID Stephane Lebrun)
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 14-02-2009 21:40
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Found Bilthoven (Nethe) 27-04-2004 After several evenings of search, I come to Phaonia aeneiventris. arista short haired ! eyes haired elongated pre-se-acr (and there are some pale hairs below post-spir.) Could it be possible....?? javanerkelens attached the following image:  [96.35Kb] Edited by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 16:08 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 15-02-2009 13:00
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9233 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Joke, check it isn't Helina evecta
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-02-2009 13:25
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Helina evecta was one of the possibylities, but the arista is not long plumose and the pre-alar is strong and has the same lenght as the post-notopl.... I try to make another photo... Joke |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-02-2009 14:00
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
What about Phaonia gobertii ? It has some hairs under post spiracle, elongated presut acr., long pra, black legs, and short plumose arista (less than, or at most half long as 3ant width)... And April is enough early for it. Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 15-02-2009 14:01 Stephane. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-02-2009 14:02
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Here some more photo's (and H. evecta has no pd seta) Joke 
javanerkelens attached the following image:  [150.88Kb] |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-02-2009 14:06
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
What about Phaonia gobertii ? P.gobertii has the katepimeron bare, and whit my fly it is whit many hairs... Joke |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-02-2009 15:28
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Katepisternal hairs on one site 3 and on the other site whit an extra hair below the anterior one (red stripe in photo) Setae on hind tibia noticed whit red points. Maybe it wil help...otherwise I wil put the fly back in the box and take a nice cup of tea...  Joke van Erkelens javanerkelens attached the following image:  [130.35Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-02-2009 15:41
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Just to be sure we 're talking about the same thing : katepisternum is not katepimeron, isn't it ?
Stephane. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-02-2009 16:03
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Just to be sure we 're talking about the same thing : katepisternum is not katepimeron, isn't it ? Oh oh...you are right...katepimeron is bare (my mistake)  Then it is most likely P.gobertii (Mik,1881) May I thank you very much !!!  Joke Edited by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 16:06 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-02-2009 16:18
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Good news ! Let's have a cup of tea... Stephane. |
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