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 Musca autumnalis -> Musca sp.
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 24-04-2017 17:53
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Ukraine, Rivne region, on March 28. Musca autumnalis, male ?  
Edited by Gansucha on 05-05-2017 22:38 |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 25-04-2017 07:56
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No one can say about this ? |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-04-2017 08:51
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I doubt this is M. autumnalis or even larvipara, the frons seems too broad. Maybe M. amita (species only recorded from Ukraine by the way), but with Musca sp. we are wiser.
Stephane. |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 25-04-2017 18:19
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Thank you, Stephane !!! What is the difference between a male of the species ? |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-04-2017 20:20
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Sorry, I'm not sure to understand your question. What's the difference between what and what ?
Stephane. |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 26-04-2017 00:48
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What is the difference between males genus Musca: M. autumnalis, M.larvipara, M. amita, M. domestica ? Which parts of the body should pay attention when photographing ? Edited by Gansucha on 26-04-2017 00:51 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-04-2017 21:15
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
First there are many other Musca species : osiris, tempestiva, vitripennis, lucidula, sorbens, albina, crassirostris, ventrosa, xanthomelas... Some need details which are not visible from photographs (hairs on propleuron, suprasquamal ridge etc.). Some species are easy to ID though (M. ventrosa for example is the only species with a wholly yellow abdomen), but some species are very close and difficult to separate from pictures (like M. autumnalis/larvipara). These later can be distinguished by the hairiness of suprasquamal ridge and/or the genal distribution of hairiness. Musca domestica has got a broad frons and a rather elongated abdomen (and the propleuron is hairy). I can't write a complete key here of course. For Musca, collecting is the best way to get a reliable identification. Stephane. |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 27-04-2017 00:39
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Of course. Thank you for your time and explanation. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
