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 Phoridae scuttle fly, NE HU, Nov 2009
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| phil withers |
Posted on 07-12-2009 18:31
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
The fork is the V-configuration of veins in your first photo: look to see if there are hairs near this on the long vein... |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 07-12-2009 19:55
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Well, I only see those small microtrichia (?) which are present on the whole wing...
pwalter attached the following image:  [90.94Kb] Edited by pwalter on 07-12-2009 19:56 |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 07-12-2009 20:48
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
They would be long bristles if present - which seems not to be the case. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 07-12-2009 21:57
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
So, not autumnalis and not in the key of Disney... Interesting! Thank You for Your contribution! |
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| bbrown |
Posted on 08-12-2009 03:59
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Member Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 103 Joined: 17.02.05 |
You need to use Die Fliegen. Disney's book is only for England. Brian Brown Entomology NH Museum of Los Angeles Co. |
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| bbrown |
Posted on 10-12-2009 19:55
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Member Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 103 Joined: 17.02.05 |
The first couplet in Die Fliegen is "scutellum with 4 large, subequal bristles" vs "anterior scutellar bristles much smaller than posterior" [actually, the literal translation is "scutellum four-bristled" versus "scutellum two-bristled", but you get the idea]. There are 49 species in Die Fliegen, and a few more have been described since. Brian Brian Brown Entomology NH Museum of Los Angeles Co. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-12-2009 20:04
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You Brian, I think I'll keep on catching them, making preparations, and ask for genus ID here, and later I will get in contact maybe with a local specialist, or get a copy of the Fliegen. There's a young entomologist in Hungary, who eorks with Papp, and he studies Phoridae, but I haven't got in contact with him yet. Walter |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:19
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, I found this preparated fly from 2009 and made new photos of it with a better microscope. These are the mouthparts: pwalter attached the following image:  [45.11Kb] Edited by pwalter on 11-01-2011 12:20 Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:21
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
From closer:
pwalter attached the following image:  [40.9Kb] Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:22
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
3rd leg:
pwalter attached the following image:  [40.96Kb] Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:22
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
one more from 3rd leg:
pwalter attached the following image:  [24.51Kb] Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:23
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hairs on Coxa with 100x lens:
pwalter attached the following image:  [57.9Kb] Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 11-01-2011 12:24
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
And the wing with 100x lens:
pwalter attached the following image:  [51Kb] Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 12-01-2011 13:00
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2130 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Very nice images Walter!!
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-01-2011 23:12
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thanks!
Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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but don't see the image in the post.
