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Anthomyiidae (2) 23 July 2016 Öland, SE Sweden
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:35
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Is it possible to identify?
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:36
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
2nd
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:37
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
mid leg
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:40
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
mid leg
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:40
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
hind leg
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:41
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
hind leg
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Johane |
Posted on 15-12-2016 00:42
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
dorsal view
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javanerkelens |
Posted on 16-12-2016 00:11
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With a row of pv setae on t3 it could indicate Delia and with two strong ad setae on t2 it could be Delia antiqua, but the prealar is too strong strong and almost at the same lenght as the posterior notopleural seta….and the strong curved spur on the foretibia also seems not present. With such strong prealar it could be A. liturata (2 ad on t2 + some pv on t3 and tergite VI black shining), but the crossveins seems not infuscated. Maybe we have to look at Botanophila and B. striolata also has two strong ad on t2, some pv setae on t3 ( not as much as your photos show) and tergite VI black shining. So…. maybe you can check for B. striolata at first…?! Johanna Edited by javanerkelens on 16-12-2016 00:12 |
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Johane |
Posted on 20-12-2016 21:46
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Thank you Johanna! I think the description of B. striolata on your website fits with my fly. Is this enough or is genitalia preparation necessary?
Johan Ennerfelt |
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javanerkelens |
Posted on 20-12-2016 22:35
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I presume you also compared the shape of the genitalia (V sternite and surstylus) in combination with the outer characters. If you are convinced....you don't need to prepare the genitalia. Have trust in yourself !! Johanna ![]() |
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Johane |
Posted on 26-12-2016 00:45
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Well, the problem is that the fly dried before I had pulled out its genitalia.
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javanerkelens |
Posted on 26-12-2016 13:54
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In dried species the genitalia can differ in shape comparing with fresh species, but I think B. striolata could be indeed. On the photo you can see on the end of the V sternite a strong curve and maybe you can recogize this under your microscope. If this strong curve is not present, we have a problem, because than it is not B. striolata. ![]() Johanna javanerkelens attached the following image: ![]() [161.02Kb] |
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Johane |
Posted on 27-12-2016 10:40
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
I made some new pictures of the 5th sternite
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Johane |
Posted on 27-12-2016 10:41
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
2nd
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javanerkelens |
Posted on 27-12-2016 20:24
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I am thinking of B. brunneilinea. The typical shape of the cercal plate and surstyli in B. brunneilinea I have drawn in red on your photo. Could you confirm this shape…?! Johanna javanerkelens attached the following image: ![]() [209.9Kb] |
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Johane |
Posted on 28-12-2016 15:22
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1962 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Yes, brunneilinea looks good. Thank you so much for your help! :-)
Johan Ennerfelt |
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