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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-09-2013 08:59
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
I am pretty sure this is a Chrysophilus, but it was really big compared with all Chrysophilus I have seen. About 1 cm long. I have gone through the keys but I get all mixed up  The markings on the wing are driving me mad. Help, please!!Found sitting on lower vegetation by a river in the outskirts of Madrid on September the 22nd 2013. Thanks for whatever help!! 
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-09-2013 09:01
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Another view. The tips of the wings are not hyaline. They look a bit greyish 
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-09-2013 09:02
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
And another one.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-09-2013 11:13
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19268 Joined: 11.05.04 |
It is very similar to this one, which could very well be Chrysopilus laetus. However, this group is taxonomically very complicated...
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-09-2013 20:50
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks a lot, Paul  Chrysopilus laetus has not been recorded in Spain, as far as I know. Which doesn't mean it isn't  Of the species recorded in Spain, I know for sure it isn't asiliformis, auratus, flaveolus and splendidus. I think it could be pullus or torrentium, which I know have something dark on the wings apart from the pterostigma. But no more information so I simply don't know if there is a chance it is one of those species. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-08-2016 16:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18616 Joined: 21.07.04 |
After a long search I finally got the description of torrentium. It is very close to cristatus. According to Narchuk, pullus should have darkened pleura. So, I have to agree with Paul it is similar to laetus. What bothers me, though, is the darkened wing tip Theo |
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