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Tony Irwin
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1, 2, 3, 5a, 5b, 6, 10 - vicina
4 - vomitoria
7, 8, 9 - loewi
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No love for C. uralensis - or C. subalpina?
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I think this individual is a female C. vicina. Am I right?
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Lateral view of the individual from the last posting.
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Cheek looks all grey - I think C. vomitoria.
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This is an enigmatic fly. I think this is not C. vicina. Is it C. uralensis? Another scenario is that this fly is not even Calliphora, but belongs to another genus.
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A view from the top.
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Xespok - your first fly is Calliphora vicina. The anterior spiracle and the basicosta are pale, and I think the front of the genae are pale too. I can see no red hairs on the genae, so not vomitoria.
Your enimatic fly looks like Protocalliphora or a related species.
[By the way, it may be better to start a new thread with enigmatic flies - there's a danger of getting confused if there are too many species in a thread!]
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Nikita,

pierred wrote:
Is this also C. loewi? For me, this is whether C. vicina nor C. vomitoria.


My question was mainly about the white strip along the inner part of the eyes. But this should not be a criterion if I understand your answer.

Thanks anyway, as always.
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So, I guess this is C.vomitoria then (reddish beard on dark gena)?

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Tony: Nikita - I think this is loewi. It would be good to have it in the gallery

I filled some doubts about my two years ago C.loewi images among this large post. This time I had two dead pigeons to check the situation. It is:
On broadleaf forest on very fresh carrion I collected C.loewi, when the carrion became older it replaced by C.vomitoria. Another Calliphoridae - Lucillia ampullacea was common either on fresh or old carrion.
Carrion near sea beach attracted C.vomitoria, L.ampullacea, L.illustris and a hell lot of Ch.albiceps
So, I regard ID of C.loewi as confirmed
Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 01-11-2007 16:49
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Excellent! Let's get those pictures in the gallery. Cool
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