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 Bibionidae - west Romania
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| eliz |
Posted on 12-09-2015 18:18
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 65 Joined: 28.08.09 |
september, west Romania, into a forest, 1000m altitude Bibio pomonae or varipes? First i had thinked it's pomonae, but after watching this guy pictures now i'm confused http://www.commanster.eu/commanster/Insects/Flies/Bibionidae.html eliz attached the following image:  [199.12Kb] Romania Nature Photography |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 12-09-2015 18:25
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10084 Joined: 22.10.10 |
eliz wrote: september, west Romania, into a forest, 1000m altitude Bibio pomonae or varipes? First i had thinked it's pomonae, but after watching this guy pictures now i'm confused http://www.commanster.eu/commanster/Insects/Flies/Bibionidae.html That site has many misidentifications. The photo of female pomonae in the gallery shows sharply contrasting red femora and black tibiae and pale posterior veins, like your fly. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-09-2015 09:33
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18724 Joined: 21.07.04 |
John is totally right. This is a female pomonae. Pretty late in the season. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-09-2015 09:38
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18724 Joined: 21.07.04 |
As for the other website, the male pomonae is totally OK. The pomonae in the ' wing' section given as pomonae is clearly a mistake, it is from the picture previously given as ' varipes', which might actually be a female johannis. General warning: Alle females of the johannis - lanigerus group have red femora as well as tibiae. In pomonae, the tibiae are black (and the wing venation is different). Theo |
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| eliz |
Posted on 16-09-2015 19:00
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 65 Joined: 28.08.09 |
Thanks both of you guys for clarification. Zeegers wrote: Pretty late in the season. I wrote the wrong date. the photo was taken on 31 august 2015. the fly was unmoving even was afternoon. maybe was dead 
Romania Nature Photography |
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