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Carnifex |
Posted on 28-07-2019 21:42
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1903 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Trying to find another species than B. vulgaris, here is my next approach: Rather small (in comparison to another Bellardia), with a dark spot at the parafacialia. However, the lower calypter does not look obviously darker than the upper one. I don't have a key, just putting together what various sources say. Could this be B. bayeri? Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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eklans |
Posted on 29-07-2019 10:04
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3606 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Lorin, with the dark spots on the upper part of the parafacial I think you're right with B. bayeri. Eric |
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Carnifex |
Posted on 29-07-2019 10:23
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1903 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Thanks, Eric! I think Stephane Lebrun has quite some experience, hopefully he will have a look in the forum again soon. Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 13:05
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Blowflies (Diptera, Calliphoridae) of Fennoscandia and Denmark https://brill.com/view/title/608?lang=de John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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Carnifex |
Posted on 29-07-2019 17:39
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1903 Joined: 23.06.15 |
If someone could provide me with just the part where Bellardia is keyed out, that would be great!
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 29-07-2019 18:35
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello, keys to Calliphoridae are not always reliable. Calliphoridae can be difficult for many reasons. Some features can be variable, one may come across a freak specimen and members of a genus can be quite similar, as in vulgaris and viarum. Most of the time, you do not provide photos useful for keys. e.g. fore tibia, calypters, posterior spiracle, thorax, head, arista, abdomen, wing and genitalia (not always necessary but best for a positive id). i have to admit that i've misinterpreted a description from Dr. Rognes. Probably because i'm usually tired and i'm not so interested in Bellardia. Turns out, that the discal setae is just that - setae! I am incorrect with a concept of bristles. Therefore, i will need to reevaluate my opinions about Bellardia. So keep in mind that the discals are setae (hairs) not thick hairs (bristles). For this species, the calypters appear to be infuscated and the wing also appears to be infuscated. bayeri is an option but you need to view the head from above because any spot will not disappear when viewed from above if it is bayeri. show us the photo from above. Note: if you have trouble dissecting genitalia, then perhaps just try to show photos of it in dorsal and lateral views. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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