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 Baccha elongata (Syrphidae)
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 15-06-2008 22:16
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Hi, I'm not expert about diptera, but I collected one 8 mm fly whis is under my binocular: - It has a ptilinal suture - The apex of the abdomen turns inwards (ventrally) like a Conopidae - Lacks elongated snout - Anal cell next (but not reach) the wing border - False wing border like Sirphidae - Eye (laterally) occupying nearly all the head, not like Conopid. So is not Sirphidae, nor Conopidae, so I'm lost.  Any idea of which family could it be woul be wellcomed. Thanks in advance, Rafa. Edited by rafael_carbonell on 21-04-2011 10:09 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 15-06-2008 22:29
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7194 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Try Pipunculidae  - just a few pictures in the gallery, but you can find many more with a forum search
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 15-06-2008 23:21
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks, but wing venation don't looks as this family. I don't have camera connected to the binocular, but I will add a drawing later. |
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| crex |
Posted on 15-06-2008 23:33
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
You'd better tell where you found the fly as well ... |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:06
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Well, the fly was catched in my kitchen, but I live in the countryside. 11 may 2008, the lenght of the wing about 7 mm; the lenght of the body about 10 mm. Here I add a bad picture (ventral habitus, one wing reversed) and a drawing of the right wing... just to know family... and learn. Thanks in advance. rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [15.11Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 16-06-2008 22:09 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:11
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
It looks like Baccha elongata, Syrphidae.
Stephane. |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:16
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Sorry I could'nt put the 2n image, now... So many thanks if it is Bacca elongata!
rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [23.33Kb] |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:26
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Great! Could be that animal. But then Chinery's key guide of insects is wrong? I saw a ptilininian suture! Or may be I'm wrong? And also the apex of the abdomen was turned ventrally, like conopids. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:33
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
With that wing (nice drawing) it is Syrphidae without doubt, and with this figure it's Baccha without doubt. Greetings. Stephane. |
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| crex |
Posted on 18-06-2008 10:01
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
rafael_carbonell wrote: Well, the fly was catched in my kitchen ... LOL |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 24-06-2008 15:32
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Sorry, my head was thinking about the flies: Can Grau, Beuda, Girona, Spain, UTM 31T DG7477, 400 m, 11 may 2008. |
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