Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 8

· Members Online: 1
Paul Beuk

· Total Members: 4,191
· Newest Member: Abdelsalam
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Paul BeukOnline
· Juergen Peters00:11:27
· zenartim00:14:39
· Lippo00:26:59
· RamiP00:34:03
· kjetilbekkeli00:36:21
· Andre Burgers00:37:38
· libor00:40:33
· TomiTrilar00:44:52
· Zeegers00:56:07
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Bombylius
diphascon
#1 Print Post
Posted on 05-04-2006 23:49
Member

Location:
Posts: 85
Joined: 26.07.05

T?bingen (SW Germany), 03.04.06, on a wall

Is it Bombylius discolor?

cheers - martin
diphascon attached the following image:


[72.44Kb]
 
Paul Beuk
#2 Print Post
Posted on 06-04-2006 09:34
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 16683
Joined: 11.05.04

Probably, but to be certain we should know the colour of the hairs on the venter. These are dark in B. discolor and pale in the similar B. medius. The information I have also gives B. discolor as flying much earlier, so I can guess what the answer will be...
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
https://diptera.info
LordV
#3 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 08:25
Member

Location:
Posts: 663
Joined: 06.09.05

Not sure if it helps- here's a pic of what I think is Bombylius major I took yesterday South coast UK.
Brian V.

static.flickr.com/53/124296100_27fbb7d410_o.jpg
 
Paul Beuk
#4 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 09:20
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 16683
Joined: 11.05.04

Yep, that's a major.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
https://diptera.info
diphascon
#5 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 10:19
Member

Location:
Posts: 85
Joined: 26.07.05

Paul Beuk wrote:
Probably, but to be certain we should know the colour of the hairs on the venter. These are dark in B. discolor and pale in the similar B. medius.


Thanks, Paul.

The ventral hairs are all black, so I think it's discolor

cheers - martin (the sun is out today ...)
 
Louis Boumans
#6 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 18:14
Member

Location: NO Oslo
Posts: 261
Joined: 09.06.04

Lord V : no, I don't think it's particularly helpful, but it IS a great picture! So thanks for sharing it with us Wink,

Louis
 
Perseus
#7 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 19:38
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Hello,

www.glaucus.org.uk/Bee-fly098e.jpg

6 April 2006
Mill Hill, Sussex.
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/MillHill2006.html

More Information and links:
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Flies2006.html

Cheers

Andy Horton
glaucus@hotmail.com
Adur Valley (West Sussex) Nature Notes
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Adur2006.html
Adur Valley Nature Notes: April 2006
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/April2006.html

Button image for web sites linking Adur Nature Notes
http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openalbum.cfm?GID=1394578&AlbumID=5944265
><< ( ( ( ' >
 
Perseus
#8 Print Post
Posted on 07-04-2006 19:43
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Last year I had B. major on 10 April 2005 in a garden.

www.glaucus.org.uk/Bee-Fly098.jpg
I have less information on what is meant to be the commoner of the two species in England. And it probably is commoner!



 
Perseus
#9 Print Post
Posted on 08-04-2006 00:35
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Has anybody else got other Bombylius photographs from northern Europe (at least two other species) they can post on this thread to make a useful reference please?
 
Perseus
#10 Print Post
Posted on 08-04-2006 00:40
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

A possible B. ater?

http://www.dipter...=8#post_18

This is not a UK recorded species though:

Checklist of UK Recorded Bombyliidae

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bombylius canescens Mikan, 1796
Bombylius discolor Mikan, 1796
Bombylius major Linnaeus, 1758
Bombylius minor Linnaeus, 1758
Phthiria pulicaria (Mikan, 1796)
Thyridanthrax fenestratus (Fall?n, 1814)
Villa cingulata (Meigen, 1804)
Villa circumdata authors, misident.
Villa modesta (Meigen, 1820)
Villa venusta (Meigen, 1820)

The two species in the same genus are the ones most interesting to compare.
 
Perseus
#11 Print Post
Posted on 18-04-2006 01:59
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Hello,

Has anybody spotted any ordinary Bee-flies B. major, this year? All the reports have been of B. discolor!

Cheers

Andy Horton
glaucus@hotmail.com
Adur Valley (West Sussex) Nature Notes
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Adur2006.html
Adur Valley Nature Notes: April 2006
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/April2006.html
 
Paul Beuk
#12 Print Post
Posted on 18-04-2006 08:42
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 16683
Joined: 11.05.04

I have not seen bee flies but then again, they are pretty scarce in my part of the Netherlands... But as far as I am aware, B. major is the commoner of the two species and, conseriring Britain as a whole, I think it should be the commoner there, too.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
https://diptera.info
Gordon Jar
#13 Print Post
Posted on 18-04-2006 20:52
Member

Location: East Sussex, England
Posts: 170
Joined: 09.10.05

Both species are certainly active in my part of East Sussex on the south coast of England. This year is the first time I have seen B. discolor, a nationally scarce fly to Britain, in my area. There again I have only been looking since last year.

Gordon
 
conopid
#14 Print Post
Posted on 19-04-2006 21:19
User Avatar

Member

Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1015
Joined: 02.07.04

Loads of Bombylius major flying in Shropshire - central England. This is curious as in many places where I have seen Bombylius there is little evidence of the host Andrena mining bee. Certainly no sign of B discolor in these parts!
Nigel Jones, Shrewsbury, United Kingdom
 
LordV
#15 Print Post
Posted on 19-04-2006 21:33
Member

Location:
Posts: 663
Joined: 06.09.05

Assuming the pic above is B.major and the one below, I've seen quite a few in my garden just along the coast from you (Worthing)
Brian V.

Here's another pic from a couple of days ago.

static.flickr.com/45/130878321_924f84330f.jpg

Perseus wrote:
Hello,

Has anybody spotted any ordinary Bee-flies B. major, this year? All the reports have been of B. discolor!

Cheers

Andy Horton
glaucus@hotmail.com
Adur Valley (West Sussex) Nature Notes
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Adur2006.html
Adur Valley Nature Notes: April 2006
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/April2006.html

Edited by LordV on 19-04-2006 21:38
 
Perseus
#16 Print Post
Posted on 23-04-2006 11:35
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

I saw my first B. major on 22 April 2006 in sunny Sussex.

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Flies2006.html

Not very good image so I will not post it. The black line on the wing could be seen easily without the aid of magnifying equipment. Could not get out int eh sunshine yesterday and now it is raining.
 
Perseus
#17 Print Post
Posted on 23-04-2006 11:38
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

PS. A few days ago (8 April 2006), I saw scores of Andrena flavipes locally.

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Bees2.html
Edited by Perseus on 30-04-2006 11:28
 
Perseus
#18 Print Post
Posted on 23-04-2006 11:44
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Have we got dates that B. major was first recorded this year please?

Last year I made a note that the first one I saw was on 3 April 2005 in Sussex.

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Flies2.html

 
LordV
#19 Print Post
Posted on 23-04-2006 13:09
Member

Location:
Posts: 663
Joined: 06.09.05

First pic I have of one In Worthing Sussex was on 5th April 2006.
Brian V.
 
Perseus
#20 Print Post
Posted on 23-04-2006 18:34
Member

Location:
Posts: 55
Joined: 11.08.05

Good image.

As early as last year then.

I was hampered by observer opportunities this year. Bee flies do not visit my garden. I have to go to them.

Butterflies are late this year, but Bee-flies are on time or thereabouts? or were they earlier last year? (my first record was 3 April 2005).
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Bombylius venosus? Diptera (adults) 5 28-02-2019 10:00
is this Bombylius venosus? Diptera (adults) 3 27-02-2019 08:29
Bombylius discolor? -> yes Diptera (adults) 3 31-01-2019 11:43
Bombylius fimbriatus - Romania What should I use? 1 10-11-2018 20:53
Bombylius canescens? Diptera (adults) 4 13-05-2018 21:04
Date and time
19 April 2019 10:59
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

15.04.19 19:04
anybody knows the whereabouts of John Chainey (London) ? He riterd from NHM, so it seems...

06.03.19 08:19
@ Elisabeth: you must go to the Forum --> Diptera (adults) --> New thread

05.03.19 14:09
Hello, I am new to diptera. How can I submit a photo of a diptera to find the correct name? I tried 'submit gallery photo but that was refused. Elizabeth

14.02.19 11:14
hello everyone, I come back. Snowy today in Inner Mongolia, China

13.02.19 09:46
I looooove the fly in the beer irish joke in the random quotes Grin

05.02.19 11:24
Send a PM

05.02.19 09:05
I´d like to communicate with Jan Maca, who is a member here, but I can´t find any e-mail address. Could anyone help?

21.01.19 19:07
Thank you. Yes - I've done it now. The file was too large.

21.01.19 18:42
no blanks in filename, file size reduced (below 300 k or so).Did you fulfill these criteria ?

20.01.19 15:45
I've repeatedly tried to upload a photo with my thread but nothing is showing. I can't see that I've done anything wrong. Can someone please assist?

Render time: 14.2 seconds | 139,288,186 unique visits