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Strange fly with long arista: Heleomyzidae? --> Eccoptomera
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:13
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13910 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! This 6-7 mm fly rested at the wall of our house last night. I have never seen something like this. The closest resemblance I can find, is Heleomyzidae (Eccoptomera?). Could that be true? Thanks! Larger pictures: http://www.foto-u..._big_1.jpg http://www.foto-u..._big_2.jpg http://www.foto-u..._big_3.jpg Juergen Peters attached the following image: [43.14Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 12-04-2008 01:41 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:14
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13910 Joined: 11.09.04 |
More dorsal.
Juergen Peters attached the following image: [28.7Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:24
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13910 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! I should have read the other threads before... Looks rather similar to (but darker) Robert's fly here: http://www.dipter...d_id=12150. So Oecothea, too? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
phil withers |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:36
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Eccoptomera is right. |
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Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:37
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
hi Juergen, Looking at de diptera.info-gallery, Oecothea fenestralis got a strong dark wingmark. So my choice is Oecothea praecox.., but I don't have any experience with these. Let's wait for a specialist.. EDIT: Phil was a bit faster reacting Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 12-04-2008 01:40 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:41
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13910 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Phil and Robert! Thanks! So both of our flies are Eccoptomera... Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
phil withers |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:44
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
It is difficult to see some of the critical features (such as whether the hind femur has a dorsal preapical) but I would place it near Eccoptomera microps |
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Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 12-04-2008 01:56
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I do not know, if I have the right place and the right hair.., but do you ment this bristle on the hind femur?;
Robert Heemskerk attached the following image: [113.59Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 12-04-2008 01:57 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
phil withers |
Posted on 12-04-2008 10:12
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
That's the one |
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