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Posted by picotverd on 24-08-2011 22:19

31/07/2011 spanish pyrenees

Edited by picotverd on 13-08-2012 14:36

Posted by picotverd on 24-08-2011 22:20

another view

Posted by picotverd on 24-08-2011 22:21

last

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 25-08-2011 00:44

the head on this is very, very odd... I hope you did collect this..

Posted by ChrisR on 25-08-2011 09:17

Yes, from this angle it isn't a typical Eriothrix ... so it would be useful to see the specimen :)

Posted by neprisikiski on 26-08-2011 12:39

I think, Schineria tergestina.

Posted by ChrisR on 26-08-2011 12:47

Wow ... never even heard of that one :S

Posted by picotverd on 26-08-2011 13:05

Thank you neprisikiski! At this place from National Parc d'A�guestortes i could not collect. I will demand a permission for next year (I just have for Odonata). I must say that the same day about 1 hour later i found a very rare orthopter called Bohemanella frigida wich is a boreal relicted as may be it is this fly (?).
I add another detail....

Edited by picotverd on 26-08-2011 13:06

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2011 13:17

i'll go there with you R�mon and Isidro in the next year. ;)
Ask really for Diptera permission, please.

If the species confirms, this is a new record for Iberian Peninsula and worthy a publication on it.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2011 13:20

Posted by picotverd on 26-08-2011 13:27

#10

This is 2 or maybe 3 Oporto wine...
A photo from the habitat... with the iphone

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2011 13:33

#11

deal. :p I have 5 bottles here ready. :D

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2011 13:33

Posted by picotverd on 26-08-2011 13:35

#12

A better view from the flora with the mobile...

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2011 13:39

#13

I do not remember that we visit this place... I know we were in this "parc" but we did not visit slopes. :( Next time. ;)
Yeah, I really must go every year to Pyrynees.

Posted by ChrisR on 26-08-2011 14:29

#14

Looks a really beautiful habitat ... you need to arrange perpetual collecting permits because you will be going back there a lot! ;)

Posted by Zeegers on 27-08-2011 15:55

#15

I think Erikas is right here, excellent call

Theo

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-08-2011 16:53

#16

Submit it for the gallery and ask for permission for the parc! I will assist you, R�mon. :) Now you have two publications to do. Congrats.

Posted by nick upton on 27-08-2011 17:04

#17

it's a pretty place in winter too.... but maybe not so good for insects then! I hope you get collecting permission OK. The park was helpful to me a couple of years ago and allowed filming permission/ access at short notice (unlike Ordesa....).

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-08-2011 17:23

#18

Ordesa y Monte Perdido? ... very hard to obtain a permission there.

Posted by nick upton on 27-08-2011 17:31

#19

Yes.... and the response was rude and dismissive... despite the application coming from a prestigious production company with a 50 year plus track record... We wanted to film Lammergeier vultures in Ordesa and Monte Perdido park, and it was a big NO. But we filmed them anyway, lots of them... just outside the park near Revilla above Escuain gorge. A fabulous area and I've been back since to hike in the summer. I'd like to go back and to Aiguestortes too. Hope you get to go.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 13-08-2012 12:42

#20

Nick.. that is not a surprise to me. :( The permissions are more for getting money.. than to protect really the places. I have seen so many "protetect places" and in 100 m there are buildings...

Well, I'm sorry to say but the above fly is not a Schineria tergestina....
It is another genus. It is a Brachymera letochai...

According to the Tschorsnig : "Brachymera letochai, no doubt.

Schineria tergestina differs (in the characters which can be seen on
the photos - there are more differences of course) from Brachymera
letochai by the elongated first and second aristal segments, the
elongated pedicel (only slightly shorter than the first flagellomere),
the different shape of the head (frons not prominent at antennal base,
upper part of back of head less convex), shorter thoracic and
abdominal bristles (which are very long and strong in Brachymera)."

Also check this thread: http://diptera.in...d_id=49368

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-08-2012 13:18