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 Oestridae (Pharyngomyia picta)
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:10
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 Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Is it Pharyngomyia picta? About 14mm,2006-08-06,Hockai,Belgium Thanks Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [121.33Kb] Edited by Christine Devillers on 05-04-2008 20:29 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:18
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Wow!! it seems a very robust calliphorid.  remember a little some rhiniin fly.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 17-11-2007 18:20 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:21
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
was it found near sheeps or goats? |
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| crex |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:34
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Nice photo of a fascinating fly. It looks like a little pig  There are 4 genera and 8 species in Europe. I wonder if we have them in Sweden ... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:45
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
sure.  See here - http://www.faunaeur.org/distribution.php there is Oestridae in Sweden. seek for sheeps and goats. Here I never saw any Oestridae.  And they are amazing. But a friend of mine spotted them... or were them Hypodermatidae? Not sure.. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:49
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
A real beauty Pity that so many livestock are fed insecticides because this group of flies would surely have been common >50 years ago. Reminds me of the 'Sheep Nostril Fly' (Oestrus ovis) that I caught a few years ago. At that time I couldn't find anyone locally who had seen them within the last 25 years, but I was lucky to visit a nature reserve just after they had removed a flock of 'organically reared' sheep |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 17-11-2007 18:50
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
No sheeps or goats, but presence of the hart, roe-deer (also cow). |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 18-11-2007 00:49
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Others pictures of this Oestridae. Do you agree with the name Pharyngomyia picta or could it be another species. Christine Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [123.12Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-11-2007 02:05
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
someone compared this family fly like a Pug . |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-11-2007 09:25
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18520 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Forget about sheep and goats, the ID Pharygomyia picta is excellent, hosts are deer. Little collected species, great hilltopper ! How did you get it, Christine ? Theo |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-11-2007 09:36
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
One of the most attractive flies ever posted on this forum. It is a pity that the habits of this fly are disgusting. There are plenty of deer in Hungary. I have a few hunter friends, who say that they quite often find the larvae under the skin of roe-deer. I have to keep my eyes open in August.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 18-11-2007 10:33
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks Theo for the confirmation of the ID We were lucky to see this Oestridae. We had put our bag on the ground while looking at other insects. Suddently we saw this amazing fly coming on the bag. It stayed there a few minuts. I took a lot of pictures, and that didn't seem to disturb it. Then it flew away. A last picture just for the fun! Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [123.2Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-11-2007 17:37
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18520 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, after hilltopping catching these guys (that is, Cephenemyiini) on bags is indeed the second most popular method. Great find, great pictures. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 01-12-2007 21:18
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
and now I will show another Oestridae from Canada. The photo was taken by Sean McCann. This time is a Cuterebra sp. larva. It is impressive as those imago flies! |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 01-12-2007 22:00
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Those larvae are pretty damn big. I have seen some preserved ones in the museum. They give me the creeps like no other larva does 
Kahis |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 01-12-2007 22:03
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
ohh really? You gave me a great idea, Jere! Thanks a thousand!
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 01-12-2007 22:04 |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 02-12-2007 11:57
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Terrific indeed What size for this one? Do you know the size of the larva of Pharyngomyia picta, does they live under the skin or in the nostril? Christine |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-12-2007 18:20
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18520 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It lives in the pharynx, that's why it's called Pharyngomia !! Theo |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 02-12-2007 21:21
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Ok, so the larva seen by the hunter friends of Xespok under the skin of roe deer where other oestridae |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-12-2007 17:49
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18520 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Correct. Larvae under the skin are Hypodermatinae, in his case H. diana. (or, in the New World: Cuterebrinae, again a name well chosen) Theo |
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