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 Tachinidae - Estheria picta (from Nave de Santo António)
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 09:39
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Nave de Santo António - Serra da Estrela - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.09.02 * size - 11 mm (large fly) * habitat - openland at 1500 m * substrate - on ground I found this fantastic tachinid almost in the same place I caught the Bauhmaeuria microps. EDIT---> Title changed from "Tachinidae - Goniinae ?" to "Tachinidae - Trixa conspersa" and then to "Tachinidae - it was Trixa sp. (unknown genus.or maybe an Estheria??)" and"Tachinidae - Estheria picta (from Nave de Santo António)" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [181.53Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 02-08-2011 20:16 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 09:41
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 09:42
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-09-2007 10:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19213 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I would say Trixa cf. conspersa Medium fly does not equal 6 mm. Trixa is much larger. SO I go for the medium-size. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 11:09
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I was checking my notes in the size of the fly. It has 11 mm! Sorry for the mistake. I will edit right now! Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 02-08-2011 17:20 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-09-2007 14:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19213 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, that's good news, then there's little doubt this is Trixa. Quite Oestridae-like Tachinidae Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 14:47
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
So there is no room for doubts that this is Trixa conspersa, right? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-09-2007 16:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19213 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Unless it is a very rare species, it must be Trixa conspersa. That's why the cf. By the way, it is Dexiinae - Dexiini, not Goniinae (see title) Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 29-07-2011 16:22
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
sorry for bother with this again... but if not a Trixa, could it be really an Estheria? Or never could be it at all? What would be the other possibilites if it wasn't a Trixa? Beware that Nave de St. António is rich in very rare species. (as it was already seen in 3-4 species waiting for species/or even genus name.) |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 29-07-2011 21:27
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The small antennae suggest Trixa ... but perhaps Theo thinks it could be a different species 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-08-2011 17:09
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
No, it cannot be a Trixa because Trixa has always BARE arista [LOOK at the second photo please - it is very clear that arista is..], and the arista is clearly hairy... SO what the heck is this Tachinid??
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 02-08-2011 17:10 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-08-2011 20:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19213 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, I was having second thoughts as well on Trixa, for another reason: the parafacial is hairy. It is bare in Trixa. So this really is a Estheria. And now we know what to look for: the crossvein r-m is darkered. Moreover, the humerus is clearly yellow. So it is Esheria picta Finally a result I am happy with.... Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-08-2011 20:15
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Thanks Theo. |
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