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 Tachinid for ID, SE Spain --> Graphogaster vestita
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 13-11-2011 23:28
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Pictures taken by my friend Francisco Rodriguez in Alicante, SE Spain. Can this be Phasia? The vein r4+5 fits pretty well with most species but I cannot find anything that matches this fly. Probably I am missing something. Help, please! Thanks in advance! Piluca_Alvarez attached the following image:  [172.32Kb] Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-11-2011 00:10 |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 13-11-2011 23:29
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Another view.
Piluca_Alvarez attached the following image:  [177.79Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-11-2011 23:38
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It has significant bristles on the abdomen so cannot be Phasia ... but it should be Phasinae. Perhaps Rondania or something like that? Whatever it is, it looks very interesting 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 13-11-2011 23:47
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Well spotted, Chris!! I should have notticed that. Loads of bristles in the abdomen, so it is something else. Will continue my research and let's see if Theo can put some light in this! Thanks a lot for your help, Chris! |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-11-2011 09:57
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Looks very interesting, pretty dark for a Rondania but I don't have all species in the frontal lobe of my brain. I have to check this one Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-11-2011 11:40
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I think I'll change horse mid-stream ... how about Graphogaster?
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-11-2011 11:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
That is it, Chris, thank you. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-11-2011 11:56
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is the male of Graphogaster vestita, you can see the marginals on T4 are lacking (though discals present), a very peculiar feature. This species is relatively common in the Mediterrean, so that figures Theo |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 15-11-2011 11:59
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Gallery...?
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-11-2011 12:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Right ! Note that this species has a strong sexual dimorphism. Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-11-2011 12:13
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Very nice - I've never seen that one ... the only Graphogaster we get here is brunescens, but that's very rare and I've only ever seen it from Jari's samples from Finland. Do you find Graphogaster generally rare in northern/central Europe Theo?
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 15-11-2011 16:01
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks sooooo much, Chris and Theo!!! This is really nice!! I never thought we might get even the species! Superb! And Paul, I will ask Francisco for permission but I am pretty sure he is going to say 'Yes, of course!' He is way too grateful to you guys for all the help and patience IDing our Spanish stuff. And it isn't an easy task, just from pictures taken in the wild! I will do my best to get you the Peleteria ruficornisfor the gallery too 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 15-11-2011 16:02 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-11-2011 20:22
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, there are more or less three branches of Graphogaster Several species in the high mountains, all very rare this vestita, as said pretty common in Mediterrean and finally brunnescens, the only one in lowland temperate Europe. In my experience mostly in coniferous forests, so Finland should be ideal. Theo |
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