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 Tachinidae - Cistogaster sp.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 12:16
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Póvoa Dão - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2008.08.17 * size - about 5 mm (small fly) * habitat - farmland * substrate - wild Daucus carota flower I think this is a male of Cistogaster sp.  to see it bigger go here: http://www.flickr...92/sizes/l Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 19-03-2010 20:25 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 18-08-2008 12:17
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Yup  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 12:32
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
abdomen photo: to see it bigger go here: http://www.flickr...90/sizes/l Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 19-03-2010 20:25 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-08-2008 20:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I think you are right, though I'd loved to see the wing venation. If Cistogaster, I think you only have mesnili, and not globosa. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 21:48
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Theo, this time I have no wing venation photos. I only took two photos. I tried to catch it, but it run away. Today I was in the same spot, I didn't see it - it was not so warm like yesterday. But I've seen lots of Cylindromyia and maybe a totally black female Cistogaster. I can take wing venation photos of this last Cistogaster as I caught one specimen. 
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 18-08-2008 22:00 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 22:06
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
well, Theo. Good news. I thought that I took only 2 photos. But I took 5 photos. And one of them shows clearly the wing venation. I will upload it in a few moments. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 22:11
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
wing venation photo:
jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [194.52Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2008 20:55
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
is it possible to say by sure with the wing venation the species for this male Cistogaster? I caught a female CIstogaster yesterday (soon I will launch the photos) |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 22-08-2008 10:08
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18785 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Jorge, a misunderstanding. I wanted to see the wing venation to be sure that it is Cistogaster. Indeed, it is. globosa and mesnili can only be distinguished by genitalia. However, you don't have globosa. So it should be mesnili. If you want to be really sure, I need to study the genitalia Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2008 10:34
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
thanks Theo. I really thougth that you would need to see the wing venation to split them. SO it will be just Cistogaster. With high probability to be more mesnili than the globosa. i don't have the specimen.  |
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