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 First tachinid 2008 - Wagneria sp.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 13:25
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi Finally I found my first (true) tachinid. Maybe in last weekend I spotted a tachinid like this one... EDIT: Now I believe this can be a rhinophorid. It has clearly a petiole (there are tachinids with petiole though) but this has small calypters hence I think this can be a rhinophorid. This is rather dark fly. Coal colour. It measures about 7 mm. The head (lateral view) measures 1 mm. I will show the body photo more later. EDIT 2: Maybe a Wagneria sp. according to the Chris Raper jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [193.17Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 09-03-2008 20:32 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:04
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:09
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
rhinophoridae... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:16
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:19
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
very peculiar the 2 long bristles on scutellum.  
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 09-03-2008 15:20 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:26
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| crex |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:38
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Close up and sharp enough. You just have to work a little more with your lighting technique. Check out Tony T's postings. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 15:49
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
the lighting issue --- I need a better diffuser. The diffuser I use is very good for SIgma lens, but for this lens is not enough. I will build a home-made diffuser. A new flash would be welcome. Or a reflector with this flash so the other side of the eye can be illuminated better. And there are no any stacks here. 
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 09-03-2008 15:50 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 18:07
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
the first specimen..
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 18:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this last photo was taken by the compact Fuji just to show the way I put the labels. I use vegetal paper that is very good and better than the normal paper because if we put in ethanol there is no damage for the paper! I used edding 800 ink that is great and can support easily even ethanol 95%  The vegetal paper doesn't slide in the pin which is great too. I use a wooden box with plastazote foam as you can see. Any suggestions would be welcome. As you know the fly has 7 mm. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 18:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another view.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 18:19
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
where is DET in the first label (upper label) should be read as MET! ( METhod capture) |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 09-03-2008 19:53
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7700 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Looks like Wagneria perhaps  Love those parafacial bristles and long petiole ... but not sure if you get others down there |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 20:17
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
so my first intuition was right... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2008 18:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Theo, is it possible in this case to know which will be the Wagneria? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-03-2008 21:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yesterday I spotted another Wagneria sp. It seems a very unquiet fly.  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-03-2008 19:18
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Administrator Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18888 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is Wagneria, however, this is a very difficult genus in which I have restricted experience (southern genus), so I'm not gonna speculate on the species level. Theo |
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