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| Eddy Clerx |
Posted on 05-10-2008 23:26
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 Member Location: Netherlands South Posts: 21 Joined: 30.07.08 |
I found some pictures of a clogmia albipunctata in the diptera galery. They seem to me very similar to the one I shot. (Found n our bathroom) south netherlands. I'm advised to leave it under Psychodidae spec. Can you confirm this. Eddy Clerx attached the following image:  [90.95Kb] |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 06-10-2008 15:40
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
For once I'm going to stick my neck out: this certainly has the feel of Clogmia, and the antennae look right (the bathroom is also rather diagnostic). So, yes, I think this is correct. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 06-10-2008 18:22
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Clogmia albipunctata.
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| Eddy Clerx |
Posted on 06-10-2008 19:24
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Member Location: Netherlands South Posts: 21 Joined: 30.07.08 |
Thank you both for your reply. (and for your courage! ) |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 08-10-2008 09:04
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
Interestingly, Cogmia albipunctata is not in the 2002 Dutch checklist, prepared by Rüdiger Wagner and Paul Beuk. This is surprising if it is indeed such an ubiquitous bathroom fly. Wagner & Beuk (2002) mention C. rothschildi as the only Clogmia, and the recent Dutch species register mentions a second species tristis, but not albipunctata. Then Fauna Europaea mentions Clogmia albipunctat-us, i.e with masculine ending, absent from the Netherlands, but recorded from i.a. France and Germany. In short, this may be a new species record for the Dutch fauna?! |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 08-10-2008 11:32
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
It is not on the Hungarian list either, yet it is one of the most commonly seen species here. I am fairly sure that it occurs everywhere in the world. There are very few specialists for Psychodidae, and few people send samples for them from toilets. This species does not seem to live in these countries in the wild, I do not exactly know where the species originates from. However, I do not know the other Clogmia sp. C. albipunctata or -us was confirmed for my images both by Rudiger and a Japanese specialist. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:46
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Clogmia albipunctata (correct spelling) is a container-habitat breeder, which has taken to life around man with brio. It is probably tropical in origin (although no-one knows where its epicentre is) and is present in many more countries than Fauna Europaea records. About the only country I am certain that it is absent from is Great Britain. Current thinking (mine included) would not place either rothschildi or tristis in Clogmia, although they do breed in rot-holes (seemingly exclusively) which albipunctata probably will also. But toilets are commoner... |
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| Eddy Clerx |
Posted on 13-10-2008 22:24
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Member Location: Netherlands South Posts: 21 Joined: 30.07.08 |
As I understand, the position of the wings could be of importance for determination. Therefor this frontview (underexposed-sorry)
Eddy Clerx attached the following image:  [146.77Kb] |
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| Eddy Clerx |
Posted on 13-10-2008 22:35
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Member Location: Netherlands South Posts: 21 Joined: 30.07.08 |
and this for Louis..
Eddy Clerx attached the following image:  [190.21Kb] Edited by Eddy Clerx on 13-10-2008 22:35 |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 13-10-2008 23:35
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
Nice pictures again! |
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| Eddy Clerx |
Posted on 19-10-2008 20:28
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Member Location: Netherlands South Posts: 21 Joined: 30.07.08 |
This flatwing I spottet on an leaf near forrestcreek. The nearby field was fresch manured. I couldn't take a proper picture (didn't carry a good lens-sorry) and I wasn't able to catch it but I think it is the same spec.
Eddy Clerx attached the following image:  [77.64Kb] |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-10-2008 06:55
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Eddy, I cannot confirm that your species is C. albipunctata. But it is certainly within Telmatoscopini/Pericomini.
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