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Ephydra hians - Ephydridae USA
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Posted on 04-11-2016 22:38
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Who knows the name of this hairy Ephydridae fly..?
Found 7-6-2016 in Oregon
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Cirrula hians
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TumbsUp Nice Tony, thank you for your reaction!

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More commonly known as Ephydra hians. This is a common species in salt and alkaline lakes in the American West. Along with a few other species of Ephydra it thrives in lakes where little else can survive.
 
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Thank you for adding your reaction John!

This fly I actually found at the shore of Paulina Lake, of which I don't know if it is salty.
I was also at Mono Lake, but I was too busy admiring the tufa's Smile

I have another picture of it beneath.

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The hairs under the fore basitarsus are a male secondary sexual character of Ephydra subgenus Hydropyrus.
 
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Smile Thanks again John!

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Please submit the second photo to the gallery.
 
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I'd do anything for you John! Wink
I've summited this fly and also other USA flies, I hope Paul can use them for the gallery.

Thank you for all!

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Hydropyrus was synonymized with Cirrula by Mathis and Zatwarnicki in 1995.
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Tony Irwin wrote:
Hydropyrus was synonymized with Cirrula by Mathis and Zatwarnicki in 1995.


I assume you mean in World Catalog of Shore Flies, which I don't have. Mathis' key in Manual of Central American Diptera (2009) keeps them separate.

I don't know the justification for either position.
 
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Yes, the 1995 World Catalogue, though I also checked the latest 2016 version of that (which Wayne distributes to ephydrid workers) to ensure that it's still regarded as Cirrula. I think the fact that it appears in the Man.Cent.Am.Dipt. is simply that Wayne didn't update his key. It's not a genus I know (doesn't occur in the Palaearctic), so I have no opinion as to whether it should include Hydropyrus or not.
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Please submit your North American flies to BugGuide too, at the general Diptera page http://bugguide.n...55/bgimage or on the family or species pages if you like.
 
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