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 Lispe flavicincta?
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| clovis |
Posted on 25-01-2015 12:40
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 921 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Hi, Here is a Lispe i caught last spring in south France on side of a brackish lake. After some research, i think this could be L flavicincta, has i see a antero dorsal setae on mid tibia and epandrium black, with a large median silvery spot. But i could find any information about L marina that also lives in France according to Fauna europaea. By the way, i understood Hennig's key (1960) is the reference for this genus, but couldn't find it on internet, does someone has it in pdf? (and is it in english? I can't read german...)  clovis : France : Lattes : 34970 : 15/05/2014 Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm environ Réf. : 134445 Edited by clovis on 25-01-2015 12:40 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-01-2015 15:26
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
It is not L. marina. It is male of Lispe palposa group, most probable candidates are: L. loewi and L. superciliosa, L. flavicincta is also possible. It is all I can by this photo. If you have othre photos (no mattet how "bad", post its, it may help. Hennig is on German... Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| clovis |
Posted on 30-01-2015 10:57
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 921 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Yep, i can have other picture, but much more ugly than in vivo:   And what are the criteria to look for to recognize L marina? Do you need to see something particular? So bad for Hennig 
Edited by clovis on 31-01-2015 11:51 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-01-2015 12:35
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Yea, it is not well turned photo. Nevertheless 99% L. loewi. Check: Hind coxa with seta on inner posterior side. Palpi black to dark brown. Arista distinctly longer than pospedicel, with long apical thin and bare part, aristal hairs about as long as postpedicel width. Vibrissae absent. Parafacials without dark spot in upper part. Chaetotaxy of t2: 1 ad seta placed distinctly above middle; 1(2) p seta(e) short and weak, also placed above middle; on v surface at apical half 1-2 strong spine-like seta(e) and a row of longer fine setae. tar2-1 with long fine curled ventral setae at base. Hind tarsus thin and long, about as long as t3. Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 02-05-2015 20:54 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| clovis |
Posted on 31-01-2015 12:55
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 921 Joined: 08.06.10 |
I have it all!!!  Many thanks to you Nikita! |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-02-2015 14:23
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
In my turn, thank you for testing my key. (Hope to finish and publish revision of the Lispe palposa group this year.) Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| clovis |
Posted on 03-02-2015 15:21
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 921 Joined: 08.06.10 |
A pleasure! I'll be interested when you'll be done |
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