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Tachinidae, Cyzenis?
Ramonv
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Posted on 11-05-2013 10:19
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Hello,

is this the Phorocera obscura? Deciduous woodland in dunes, west of Holland (Amsterdamse Waterleidingduinen), on 10 may.

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Jaakko
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No, probably Cyzenis.

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Thanks Jaakko;

maybe this second photo can help.
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Looks very Blondellini to me (2 prae DC, humeral bristels in a triangle).

Oswaldia muscaria comes in mind, which is pretty abundant right now.


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Hmm, yeah I have to agree with Theo, just on gut feeling. Looks quite skinny and blondeliine ... I wish I saw Oswaldia abundantly Smile
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Eyes are really bare this time, (? or do I lack the ability to see hairs on eyes of Cyzenis ??)
 
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Theo´s got it right!TumbsUp

O. muscaria is the earlierst, pretty abundant here in Finland too but flies usually in June.

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Took me ages to spot that Oswaldia have the triangle of bristles on the humeral callus - it isn't mentioned when you key it in Belshaw. It makes an excellent confirmatory feature - as do the yellow halteres Smile
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Thanks! So this is probably O. muscaria, or is it for sure?
 
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If Jaakko agrees with me, it is ' beyond reasonable doubt'
as sure as it gets from picture


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