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Beetle with short elytra, Hungary, May
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pwalter |
Posted on 29-05-2009 13:27
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, this beetle resembles Oedemeridae a bit but it's only 3 mm long. Im forest. Thanks for any help!
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-05-2009 14:46
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Cantharidae
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John Bratton |
Posted on 30-05-2009 13:07
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Member Location: Menai Bridge, North Wales, UK Posts: 650 Joined: 17.10.06 |
Malthinus or Malthodes I suspect (Cantharidae). |
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pwalter |
Posted on 02-06-2009 21:20
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Many thanks! |
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cthirion |
Posted on 03-09-2009 21:53
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Salut Camille, C'est bien un Malthodes, j'en ai quelques uns qui présentent une texture d'élytres comme ça. Beaucoup n'ont pas de taches claires à l'extrémité des élytres, comme Malthodes holdhausi, qui a la même coloration que celui de la photo : http://www.entomologie-stuttgart.de/ask/node/687&menu=ste Cependant les Malthodes ne s'identifient qu'avec les genitalia mâles (c'est d'ailleurs assez caractéristique), et je ne connais pas de clés pour les femelles ! Amicalement, Pierre Zagatti Inra Fr Versailles cthirion |
pwalter |
Posted on 03-09-2009 23:16
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You, I guess it means it is Malthodes holdhausi but only genital examination would make it sure. I speak only german and english |
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Xespok |
Posted on 03-09-2009 23:38
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Species within the generea of Malthodes and Malthinus are generally undeterminable from photos.
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cthirion |
Posted on 04-09-2009 12:22
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Xespok, which you say is known as in the text of Pierre! "It is well Malthodes, I have of them some which has a texture of élytres like that. Many does not have clear spots at the end of the élytres, like Malthodes holdhausi, which has same colouring as that of the photograph: http://www.entomologie-stuttgart.de/ask/node/687&menu=ste However Malthodes are identified only with the male genitalia (it is rather characteristic besides), and I do not know keys for the females! " Pierre Zagatti Inra Fr Versailles cthirion |
pwalter |
Posted on 04-09-2009 12:56
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thanks for all the infos. I do have tried genital examinations of male beetles, so far only Carabidae and Staphylinidae. I just leve this one as Malthodes sp. |
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