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 Cryptochetum buccatum; SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:06
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
No clue with this one, but pretty characteristic with those enormous antennae. 
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:07
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:08
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:09
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:26
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7262 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Cryptocheta (Cryptochetidae)
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 20:52
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Tony Irwin wrote: Cryptocheta (Cryptochetidae) Hello Tony!! New family for me. Never heard of this family, Cryptochetidae.  Thanks again, Tony!!!  And have a nice weekend! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-03-2016 21:35
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9386 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Cryptochetum
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 18-03-2016 21:38
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: Cryptochetum Or Cryptochaetum??  I have found all possible variations of the name. Thanks for the right name Nikita!!!
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| John Carr |
Posted on 19-03-2016 00:10
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 Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10308 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Rondani did not spell it consistently in the paper where he described the new genus. It appears first as "Cryptochetum" and 5 pages later as "Cryptochoetum". |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 19-03-2016 12:52
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
John Carr wrote: Rondani did not spell it consistently in the paper where he described the new genus. It appears first as "Cryptochetum" and 5 pages later as "Cryptochoetum". Yes, the name is a mess. The species is C. buccatum. 
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-03-2016 10:02
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Yes, buccatum because the costal section between R1 and R2+3 is about three times as long as the section between R2+3 and R4+5. On both other European species (C. grandicorne and C. jorgepastori) it is less then twice as long.
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-03-2016 10:45
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Yes, buccatum because the costal section between R1 and R2+3 is about three times as long as the section between R2+3 and R4+5. On both other European species (C. grandicorne and C. jorgepastori) it is less then twice as long. Hi Paul!! But why coastal sections with antennae so very distinctive. C. grandicorne and C. jorgepastori have very short third segment in comparison with C. buccatum.How you experts like to make things difficult!!!! (joke, of course. )Thanks for your explanation!! Groetjes! André Edited by Andre Burgers on 21-03-2016 10:47 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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