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 Anthomyiid? England, October -> Delia platura
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:50
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
Found on hedge at Martlesham, Suffolk, UK on 22 October 2014. Please help identify the species. I can provide additional photos if that would help. Here is the fly before I captured it. Best wishes, Martin Martin Cooper attached the following image:  [142.39Kb] Edited by Martin Cooper on 25-10-2014 21:42 |
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:51
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
lateral view of pinned fly
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:51
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
dorsal view
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:51
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
wing
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:53
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
lateral close-up of head and thorax
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:54
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
face
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:54
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
side view of genitalia
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:55
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
ventral view of genitalia
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 24-10-2014 23:56
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
and here is another ventral view of the genitalia.
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| John Carr |
Posted on 25-10-2014 03:00
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10218 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Although I can't see how long the row of pv on the hind femur is, the rest of it looks like Delia platura. The pv row should be short, about 3 distinct bristles near the distal end of the femur. The pinned lateral photo shows the origin of the species name, Greek for "flat tail." |
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 25-10-2014 08:38
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
Thanks John. The specimen has dried with its hind legs rather close together making it quite hard to see the ventral sides; although I have something of blind spot for which side is which, despite efforts by Johanna to help me! Here is the image that I cropped to get the side view of the genitalia, which includes the hind femora.
Martin Cooper attached the following image:  [145.76Kb] Edited by Martin Cooper on 25-10-2014 08:40 |
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 25-10-2014 08:39
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
and here's a crop of the distal ends...
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 25-10-2014 10:07
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
Here is another fly which I think may be the same species, photographed at almost same place and time as previous specimen.
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 25-10-2014 10:09
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
and here's a crop of the distal femur of that individual.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 25-10-2014 21:17
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Excellent photos of Delia platura (what John already said..) Only the last one...a bit difficult to confirm if it is indeed also D. platura. Compliment for your effort! Johanna |
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| Martin Cooper |
Posted on 25-10-2014 21:36
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Member Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 628 Joined: 01.05.12 |
Thanks John and Johanna! I was surprised by those white hairs on the ends of the surstyli. They aren't visible in the lateral view but are quite striking in the view from below. Best wishes, Martin |
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