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Heleomyzidae DK.? -> Suillia ustulata
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Forest near copenhagen 29.Oct
Is it possible to ID this fly?

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from above
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Wings and antenna
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Probably suillia similis or imberbis.
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Excuse my mistakeAngry, scutellum is bare (or almost? bare), so not similis or imberbis, but may be laevifrons, but I am not sure.
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Suillia sp. Arista is rather short pubescent ! I am not sure about the species level Frown
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there is a male of fore tarsus is externally long haired, that suggest me a species S. pilimana, not yet recorded from Denmark !
It will be fine if you collect a male specimen and make better pics !

Andrzej
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the picts I have of fore tarsus are slightly more clear.
Sorry I didīnt collect, Iīm not used to - but perhaps it will be a good idea. donīt think I can find the place again.
Hope the new pict will help..
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Andrzej, today I was looking to some Suillia similis/imberbis specimens. If I follow Papp's key, I arrive at similis using the characteristic of the pubescence of the arista.
I think I have some similis in my own collection as well. I think I have never seen S. imberbis. Do you have this species in your collection? Isn't it possible to put pictures of both species on internet?
Papp writes in his key that both similis and imberbis are very rare. Is this true for Western Europe? Isn`t it just overlooked?

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Probably Suillia pilimana ! Wink Did you collect this specimen ?Wink
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Sorry, Andrzej, I think my question wasn`t clear to you. I didn't make the photo's. I just added my question because of the typical group of species.


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Ups - sorry for the very late reply.
No, I couldnīt find the place again - so Suillia cf. pilimana.
--Itīs a shame Shock

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Hooray !!! Finally I've identified the specimen. It is typical S. ustulata with two pairs of vibrissae Wink. Andrzej
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great!
I really appreciate that you still have struggled with this for four years!
and also an ID. characteristic.

TumbsUp Thank you very much!

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