Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Large Empididae (male) - sous-genre Euempis ou Polyblepharis

Posted by Liliane D on 19-03-2021 19:26
#1

Hello,
In the south of France, on 30 March 2020.
11.5 mm.
Thank you for your help

Edited by Liliane D on 01-04-2021 23:12

Posted by tristram on 31-03-2021 15:30
#2

The veins near the wing-tip suggest Empis sp.

Posted by Liliane D on 31-03-2021 18:21
#3

Thank you very much Tristram,
Are there many Empis that are this large (11,5 - 12 mm)?
Can it be the same species as the large female I put on this topic: https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=99911

Posted by Paul Beuk on 01-04-2021 09:07
#4

Send a PM to Igor. General appearance is like ciliata but there appear to be way to many pale hairs on the mesonotum (both in this male and in the female you linked to).

Posted by igor on 01-04-2021 20:58
#5

Hello,
This species may belong to the subgenera Euempis or Polyblepharis. Unfortunately, in some cases it is impossible to distinguish them after a photo without male terminalia because both include several very large and extensively setose species (occurring just in the Mediterranean region). As Paul has told you this species resembles very much European E. (Euempis) ciliata but E. ciliata has the thorax black setose. I guess that you found something interesting and it would be great to collect this species and send to Paul.
Best wishes,
Igor Shamshev

Posted by Liliane D on 01-04-2021 23:07
#6

Thank you both very much,
I only saw one male in March 2020 and one female in March 2021. So the pair had little chance of meeting and having offspring that would have stayed in my garden!
Their large size makes them quite visible, if I come across them again I will try to get more details. But they may not be very common!