Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae

Posted by lynkos on 19-11-2005 11:52
#1

Here I am again with what I have tentatively classified as a Muscidae.

www.naturamediterraneo.com/Public/data2/lynkos/OSGB05-C06-F.jpg_20051119114836_OSGB05-C06-F.jpg

Am I anywhere near? Sarah

Posted by Zeegers on 19-11-2005 11:55
#2

Hi Sarah


Right !
Muscidae I would agree.

Theo

Posted by lynkos on 19-11-2005 12:25
#3

At least I got that right! Anyone manage to get any nearer? Sarah

Posted by Kahis on 19-11-2005 15:17
#4

I'd say Helina, unless I am grosly misestimating the size (many Spilogona look like this but they are smaller and less common outside the arctic). Could well be a female of H. reversio.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 19-11-2005 16:43
#5

Is it same fly?
Sochi, 14nov, 6-8mm
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0996-2.jpg
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0996-3.jpg

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 19-11-2005 16:50
#6

And this one may be Spilogona? - two times less (3.5mm).
Sochi, 14 nov
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0996-4.jpg

Posted by lynkos on 19-11-2005 17:50
#7

Difficult to say whether it's actually the same, but it's certainly very very similar. The dimensions were, in fact, about 6 mm. We are certainly a LONG way from the Arctic here! Sarah

Posted by Kahis on 19-11-2005 21:12
#8

Nikita: It's not the same fly, but close. There are too many small differences in color (not that reliable) and chaetotaxy. Your fly has a prealar seta, lyncos' does not etc.

Sarah: So is increasingly also Finland, thanks to global warming. :( Last fall was record-warm and this one breaks the records once again:o

Posted by Kahis on 19-11-2005 21:18
#9

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
And this one may be Spilogona? - two times less (3.5mm).
Sochi, 14 nov


Sorry. It belongs to another subfamily of Muscidae, the Coenosiinae. I'm very suprised if that is not Lispocephala eryhtrocera

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 19-11-2005 22:13
#10

1. Thank you Jere
2. How much close, it is Helina sp. or same subfamily?
3. May I put the second image as Lispocephala eryhtrocera(?) ?
Nikita

Posted by lynkos on 20-11-2005 09:47
#11

Thanks Kahis - we've just gone from 12?C at night to O?C in the space of two days. Drastic collapse in my "hunting" results and sore throats abound :( Sarah

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2005 10:34
#12

Hi Sarah.
Don't worry about the weather! There are two main reason why I fall in love especialy with Diptera:
1. It exsist as wanderfull source of information as Diptera.info
2. Odonata, for example, is only 3-4 month/year available group. But Diptera is "all weather aviation". Even in cold Moscow in the end of november it is still possible to find some. In compare with Moscow your winter perspectives aroun Roma looks "tropical-rich". So, good hutn to you!

Posted by lynkos on 20-11-2005 11:37
#13

Couldn't agree with you more Nikita, on all points! My enthusiasm for this fascinating but difficult order is all credit to this great bunch of people and the willing and authoritative feedback I find here. It's a wonderful stimulus to go on hunting and, hopefully, to start learning something as well! A big hug of thanks to you all, Sarah