Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Small diptera ID - Ephydridae
Posted by ole on 15-12-2020 17:11
#1
aprox. 2mm on rose in garden near Copenhagen.
Any chance of ID?
August 8th.
Thanks in advance, Ole
Edited by ole on 01-01-2021 19:04
Posted by ole on 15-12-2020 17:13
#2
takeoff.....
No lateral pix, sry!
Edited by ole on 15-12-2020 17:15
Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-12-2020 17:37
#3
Hello,
I think, Ephydridae (near
Philygria?). But I am no expert.
Posted by ole on 15-12-2020 19:10
#4
hi, Jürgen.
Maybe...
But none look alike in the galleri.
best regards,
ole
Posted by Paul Beuk on 15-12-2020 20:14
#5
Trixoscelis
Edited by Paul Beuk on 15-12-2020 20:15
Posted by ole on 15-12-2020 20:29
#6
Thank You very much, Paul!
Greetings, Ole
Posted by Ectemnius on 15-12-2020 22:43
#7
Hi ole, Jürgen & Paul,
I think I see three dorscocentrals, that with the white wing spot but lacking a dark outer wing border should exclude Trixoscelis marginella. There are no other Trixoscelis species in North-West Europe to my knowledge that have these features.
Maybe it is indeed a Ephydridae, like Jürgen suggested, what do you think, Paul?
Kind regards,
Ectemnius
Posted by Andrzej on 16-12-2020 02:03
#8
As for me it is not a
Trixoscelis species. The specimen has less than 5 pairs of dorsocentral bristles (probably 1+2 pairs) and the antenna seems to be lengthened (not typically rounded as in European
Trixoscelis species). I see a white spot near the apical part of the wing membrane :|. Maybe a better picture will solve the ID problem at the family level...
Posted by Paul Beuk on 16-12-2020 08:31
#9
If Andrzej says no to
Trixoscelis then we are back to Ephydridae
Posted by John Carr on 16-12-2020 16:26
#10
I also think Ephydridae subfamily Ilytheinae.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 17-12-2020 11:02
#11
Looks like a
Philygria from these photos, but not one I recognize. A specimen would be useful! ;)
Posted by ole on 20-12-2020 20:26
#12
yes - A specimen would indeed be useful!
Thank you very much!
greetings Ole