Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dinera grisescens? ==> Phaonia angelicae vs. errans?
Posted by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 12:11
#1
This gray Tachinidae with orange legs I found yesterday 31.10.2020 in the vineyards of south Palatina / Germany.
May be Dinera grisescens?
Edited by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 15:22
Posted by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 12:13
#2
Here an additional Photo - hope it helps to determine.
Posted by eklans on 01-11-2020 12:31
#3
Hi Rainer, it's one of the Muscidae - a Phaonia, I think.
Greetings, Eric
Edited by eklans on 01-11-2020 12:31
Posted by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 14:29
#4
Hi Eric, thanks for your revision and note to the genus Phaonia, its quiet better.
The lightly orange legs suggest me to Phaonia valida, or may be there are other possibilities too?
Posted by eklans on 01-11-2020 14:51
#5
P. valida has 2 ac postsutural and the scutellum is red apically - it could be P. angelicae, but unfortunately I'm not sure.
Greetings, Eric
Posted by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 15:13
#6
Thank you Eric, I've compared the pictures in the gallery, the red apically scutellum on Ph. validata I've seen on some pics, you are right, this couldn't it be. But I couldn't find an angelicae with such orange legs, what about P. errans?
Posted by eklans on 01-11-2020 16:15
#7
Phaonia is really a difficult one - errans should have long haired eyes (and I could not find one yet).
Eric
Posted by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 16:42
#8
OK, see the clipped eyes, the hairs are around the eyes, not direct at the eyes.