Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phasiinae ?

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 21-07-2020 07:56
#1

Hello,
We were unable to characterize this species observed on july 13th in Burgondy (Yonne department, near the town of Sens). Observed on Heracleum sphondylium inflorescence (Apiacaea). In a first approach we look for Phasiinae with no success. The dark face of this species is surprising. Is-it possible to help me ? Many thanks ; sincerely yours. Jean-Michel Garel.
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos263/big/1307%20Phasia%20barbifrons.jpg
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 13/07/2020
Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm
Réf. : 263172

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos263/big/1307%20P.barbifrons%202.jpg
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 13/07/2020
Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm
Réf. : 263173

Posted by Zeegers on 22-07-2020 12:18
#2

I agree, it llooks weird, I cannot place it for now.


Theo

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 22-07-2020 17:26
#3

Thanks Theo for your interest. Jean-Michel Garel.

Posted by Zeegers on 23-07-2020 07:04
#4

Did you collect it ? It might be a Phasiinae- lookalike, but it is not Freraea, Rondania and it does not appear to be Dufouria, thought it might be one of those rare species


Theo

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 23-07-2020 10:18
#5

Unfortunately, Theo, this specimen was not collected. It is very nice, if we can viewed this species as a rare Phasiinae. Many thanks, Jean-Michel Garel.

Posted by Zeegers on 23-07-2020 16:48
#6

Got it ! Male Chaetoptilia puella.
So my previous post was close.

Please submit for the gallery !


Theo

Posted by evdb on 23-07-2020 17:38
#7

You mean Chetoptilia puella I suppose ?

Posted by John Carr on 23-07-2020 17:51
#8

evdb wrote:
You mean Chetoptilia puella I suppose ?


Chetoptilia is one of Rondani's misspellings that the rules say should be kept. It should have been Chaetoptilia.

Posted by evdb on 23-07-2020 18:05
#9

OK John, that's because I did not find it in FE, INPN nor ITIS
Thanks

Posted by Zeegers on 23-07-2020 19:36
#10

I always correct Rondani's misspellings (and any other obvious misspelling, but 80 % + are Rondani's). I find it highly unscientific to keep repeatings errors and mistakes for over one-and-a-half century. I am quite aware that the nomenclatoral police does not agree; in my opinion the Code is "badly in need of revision."

Feel free to write Chetoptilia, if you want, as long as I can write Chaetoptilia.


Theo

Posted by evdb on 23-07-2020 23:42
#11

I understand...
Thanks again

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 24-07-2020 10:08
#12

Theo, The 2 pictures are submitted for your gallery. Many thanks, yours sincerely, Jean-Michel Garel.