Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black Fly-Pollenia - more ID? --> Pollenia labialis, male

Posted by kuv on 03-01-2020 17:36
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Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Schenefeld near Hamburg, hedge with a drainage ditch between a playground and a field of a nursery school for trees, grown up with bushes like Corylus, Acer campestre, Salix and other, at a leaf of Rosa sp, 4th of June 2019, Outdoorphotos: kuv. Please help me to get the ID.
Kuv

Edited by kuv on 04-01-2020 11:44

Posted by kuv on 03-01-2020 17:36
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2nd picture:

Posted by kuv on 03-01-2020 17:37
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3rd picture:

Posted by Zeegers on 03-01-2020 18:23
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Clearly, A Pollenia. So change the title and wait for Jonas.

Theo

Posted by kuv on 03-01-2020 18:57
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Thank you very much Theo :)
Greetings Kuv

Posted by johnes81 on 04-01-2020 01:29
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Hello kuv,

Pollenia is correct and it is not of the amentaria group despite the black appearance. One way to notice this fact is the tessellations of the abdomen which are visible in your photos. Thus, the only similar species is a Pollenia labialis male, since we can exclude the amentaria group. It is quite rough looking so i understand the difficulty trying to identify it. Just remember that a wholly black basicosta and a dark posterior spiracle leads to P. labialis when you are certain it is not of the amentaria group.

Best wishes,
John

Posted by kuv on 04-01-2020 11:43
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Thank you very much John :).
You describe the "way" to the ID very exactly: Thanks!
Greetings Kuv