Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipula - pagana / berteii?

Posted by edolis on 23-11-2019 11:20
#1

Hello everyone,
I have observed this Tipula and I need your help to identify it, if possible from pictures.
My first hypotesis was T. pagana, but some friends pointed out it is more likely T. berteii.
Could you please help me out and explain how it can be discerned as one instead of the other?
Thanks!;)

Posted by edolis on 23-11-2019 11:29
#2

Forgot to mention: Tipula was observed in Vaglio Serra AT Italy, on 21/11/2019, resting on some grass.

Edited by edolis on 23-11-2019 11:30

Posted by edolis on 23-11-2019 11:33
#3

additional

Posted by Carlo Monari on 23-11-2019 15:49
#4

T.pagana is not known from Italy and has longer wings. It is most likely Tipula (Pterelachisus) berteii (Rondani, 1842)