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Posted by oxycera on 25-08-2019 11:28

From Yorkshire, England 24th Aug.2019.
Would be new to UK I think, if correct. Can anyone confirm?

Posted by Zeegers on 25-08-2019 15:37

Would be a big surprise, but then again, it looks odd and the date is definitely odd.

Do you want me to ask Jean-Luc Haenni ?

Theo

Edited by Zeegers on 26-08-2019 11:13

Posted by oxycera on 25-08-2019 16:39

Yes please, that would be very good of you.

Posted by oxycera on 26-08-2019 08:27

Prof.Skartveit considers this to be B.clavipes.
Zeegers - thank you for your input.

Posted by Colobo on 26-08-2019 08:56

I incline for B. clavipes as well. A side view displaying hind legs would allow to ensure identification.

Posted by eklans on 26-08-2019 10:34

Both sexes of B. clavipes should be black IIRC.
What about Apiloscatopse flavicollis (Scatopsiodae)?

Eric

Edited by eklans on 26-08-2019 10:37

Posted by Zeegers on 26-08-2019 11:13

Yes, we would need to see the legs properly.

The date is extremely early for clavipes.

Theo

Posted by Paul Beuk on 26-08-2019 15:12

eklans wrote:
What about Apiloscatopse flavicollis (Scatopsiodae)?

Eric

Sorry, this really is not a scatopsid.
But it does match the picture for handlirschi here.

Edited by Paul Beuk on 26-08-2019 15:35

Posted by eklans on 26-08-2019 15:53

No need for sorry - that was nonsense :S
I was confused about the female B. clavipes - only found males and had a erroneous source for the females.

Thank you Paul
Eric

Edited by eklans on 26-08-2019 15:53

Posted by oxycera on 31-08-2019 20:09

#10

I can check the legs, so please, what does IIRC mean?

Posted by eklans on 31-08-2019 21:09

#11

IIRC = if I recall correctly (but I didn't)

Cheers, Eric

Posted by Zeegers on 01-09-2019 08:14

#12

Still, please check the hind femur.

Theo

Posted by oxycera on 01-09-2019 20:17

#13

The hind femora are pale, indeed all femora are pale. Rest of legs pale too, except last two tarsal segments, which are dusky.

Posted by Zeegers on 02-09-2019 06:34

#14

It is not about the colour, but about the shape. Without picture in lateral view, we cannot judge it.

Theo

Posted by Colobo on 04-09-2019 20:14

#16

Definitely Bibio clavipes with elongate and somewhat clubed hind femur and tibia. Compare with shape of hind leg of B. handlirschi in Skartveit & al. 2013, fig. 2 https://hrcak.src...ile/153546

Posted by oxycera on 05-09-2019 10:58

#17

Many thanks for your contribution.