Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Fly with grey-black body => Ravinia sp?
Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 12:29
#1
Hello,
Photo is a stack from 15 images.
Found in Messtischplatte: 7124 (Germany)
11.08.2019
Altitude: 530
Thank you and Kind Regards.
Edited by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 16:33
Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:19
#2
Hello WHoelzel,
I don't know the genus but it is not Sarcophaga, so no it isn't S. carnaria.
I only know about Sarcophaga genus, so i cannot help any further.
Best wishes,
John
Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 16:25
#3
Hello John,
thank you for your answer and your help.
Better I change the topic.
Kind regards,
Wolfram
Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:25
#4
Ravinia sp?
Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:34
#5
Hello Wolfram,
I am happy to help.
Just to be clear: it is Sarcophagidae sp but not one from the genus Sarcophaga and particularly Sarcophaga (Sarcophaga).
I think that it could be a Ravinia sp (Sarcophagidae),
Best wishes,
John
Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 16:34
#6
Thank you for your suggestion. :)
Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:48
#7
Hello Wolfram,
i can't see any presutural acrostichals. Ravinia is supposed to have strong presutural acrostichals. Do you have any other angles of this female? preferably dorsal?
if this is a Ravinia sp, then there is only one species in the Old World:
Ravinia pernix. Maybe someone can confirm this or offer a better suggestion.
Best of luck,
John
Edited by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:48
Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 17:42
#8
johnes81 wrote:
Do you have any other angles of this female? preferably dorsal?
No, unfortunately not. 3 different stack, but it seems the same ankle. I was so concentrated to make a perfect stack to forget to make other images.
Thank you for your help.
Posted by John Carr on 11-08-2019 18:02
#9
The arrangement of lower frontal setae is different in
Ravinia and
Sarcophaga. The rows may be nearly parallel and ending near base of antennae (
Ravinia) or abruptly divergent and continuing below base of antennae (
Sarcophaga). Also,
Ravinia does not have a strong row of parafacial setae near eye.
Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 18:23
#10
John Carr wrote:
Also, Ravinia does not have a strong row of parafacial setae near eye.
Hello John, that is what i am trying to find with no luck.
Thanks for the info. I don't have much of a description for Ravinia so i'm a bit in the dark. Your post is very helpful.
So, Wolfram, i don't know what it could be. I lack knowledge of many Sarcophagidae. Perhaps someone will be able to recognize it. Meantime, i will continue trying to learn more about this family.
Best wishes,
John
Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 18:48
#11
Hi John & John!
Thank you very much for your help. I am really clueless of all the different Brachycera. I have also to google (ecosia) the termini you use and learn a lot.
Kind regards,
Wolfram