Thread subject: Diptera.info :: small black Calyptrate -> Phasia mesnili
Posted by Carnifex on 08-07-2019 19:47
#1
Hi,
on a house wall in Vienna I could catch this fly, length about 2mm. Hope an ID is possible, at least family would be great.
Edited by Carnifex on 16-07-2019 21:56
Posted by Tony Irwin on 08-07-2019 19:58
#2
I think
Phasia pusilla - hopefully an expert will confirm
Posted by Carnifex on 09-07-2019 12:26
#3
Thanks Tony,
trying to take pictures that show ID features, so here are more pics to hopefully ID the species.
I can see no additional parafrontal bristles and the haltere looks yellowish (but could be brown), so I am unsure where it keys out
Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-07-2019 13:53
#4
Yes, the haltere is a bit pale for
pusilla, but the orbits don't look like
barbifrons. And I don't know whether you have additional species in Austria. Hopefully Theo or someone who knows these flies well will give an opinion...
Posted by Zeegers on 09-07-2019 20:29
#5
If you still have the specimen, can you please make a pic of the ovipositor lateral and if possible also "ventral" (= actually dorsal) ?
It looks like pusilla, but there is something fishy going on, possibly.
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 10-07-2019 11:01
#6
ok, here you go :-)
Posted by Carnifex on 12-07-2019 08:04
#7
are the new pics sufficient for an ID?
Posted by Zeegers on 16-07-2019 20:35
#8
Ah ! You improved the images of the ovipositor. Very nice !
And it confirms my suspicion on pusilla: definitely female mesnili.
Hairs on gena should all be light coloured.
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 16-07-2019 21:18
#9
Thank you so much, Theo! That should make it a new species for the country :)
The Tschorsnig-key leaves me at the
theodori-complex, and I don't get access to further literature. What is the distinguishing feature at the ovipositor? Will have a look at the head again
Posted by Zeegers on 17-07-2019 21:15
#10
Joachim Ziegler wrote a perfect review in Studia Dipterologica, in the 1990’ies.
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 17-07-2019 23:01
#11
Zeegers wrote:
Joachim Ziegler wrote a perfect review in Studia Dipterologica, in the 1990’ies.
Exactly:
Ziegler, J. (1994) The species of the Genus Phasia, subgenus Hyalomya R-.D. in central Europe (Diptera, Tachinidae). Studia Dipterologica, 1, 157-180
But as I mentioned above:
Carnifex wrote: I don't get access
So I would be glad to either have a read in that paper or get the ID features regarding
P. mesnili :)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 18-07-2019 07:04
#12
I sent you a link...
Posted by Carnifex on 18-07-2019 10:05
#13
Thx Paul, got it! |t
Posted by Rui Andrade on 22-07-2019 07:55
#14
Hi Paul, could you also send me the paper? Sorry for keep asking for papers!! :S