Thread subject: Diptera.info :: phasia (Italy)?

Posted by Dudy on 23-06-2019 10:32
#1

Turin (Italy), october 2018
can it be a Phasia?

Edited by Dudy on 23-06-2019 10:41

Posted by Juergen Peters on 23-06-2019 21:04
#2

Hello,

I would say, Ectophasia. But I'm not an expert.

Posted by John Carr on 24-06-2019 00:11
#3

Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello,

I would say, Ectophasia. But I'm not an expert.


Cell r5 is closed in Phasia, open in Ectophasia.

Posted by Dudy on 24-06-2019 08:54
#4

john excuses my ignorance, so is it an Ectophasia?

Posted by John Carr on 24-06-2019 14:15
#5

It is not Ectophasia. Probably Phasia.

Posted by Dudy on 24-06-2019 17:02
#6

Thanks!
the only species reported for Italy (www.faunaitalia.it) are:

Phasia (Phasia) Latreille, 1804

Phasia (Phasia) aurigera (Egger, 1860) (N)
Phasia (Phasia) aurulans Meigen, 1824 (N)
Phasia (Phasia) hemiptera (Fabricius, 1794) (N, S)
Phasia (Phasia) obesa (Fabricius, 1798) (N, S, Si)
Phasia (Phasia) subcoleoptrata (Linné, 1767) (N, Si)

Phasia (Hyalomya) Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830

Phasia (Hyalomya) pandellei (Dupuis, 1957) (N, S)
Phasia (Hyalomya) pusilla Meigen, 1824 (N, S)


In my opinion..
of these the only ones that look like us seem to be:
Phasia obesa and Phasia subcoleoptrata

Posted by Zeegers on 24-06-2019 17:11
#7

That is correct. ONe of those two.
Indication of size ?


Theo

Posted by Dudy on 24-06-2019 17:13
#8

sorry, I do not know, because it is a photo that had sent me

Posted by Dudy on 26-06-2019 10:59
#9

[quote]Zeegers wrote:
That is correct. ONe of those two.
Indication of size ?


there are no other ways to distinguish them?
what do you think it could be?

Posted by Zeegers on 26-06-2019 13:01
#10

There are many ways to distinguish the two, but the picture is not so good and I am not a magician.


Theo

Posted by Dudy on 26-06-2019 13:41
#11

ok thanks!|t