Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae - > Hylemya vagans/nigrimana

Posted by Marion Friedrich on 26-01-2019 17:28
#1

Hello,
I found this fly in Germany, Saxony in a park near a small river in October. Is the fly a Hydrophoria linogrisea or belongs it to another species?
Thanks, Marion

Edited by Marion Friedrich on 27-01-2019 11:08

Posted by Marion Friedrich on 26-01-2019 17:29
#2

2nd picture

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 26-01-2019 18:31
#3

I think it is Hylemya vagans/nigrimana

Posted by Marion Friedrich on 26-01-2019 23:10
#4

Thank you very much for ID, Nikita.
I searched for the two species in the gallery and the forum and found this comment:
javanerkelens wrote:
Fore femur infuscated = H.vagans
Fore femur clear yellow = H. nigrimana
I could not find a translation for infuscated, but think it means something like darkened.
I have an old picture from a fly identified as Hylemya vagans which has darker, greyish looking fore femora.
Compared to that one all femora of this fly have a yellowish coloration.
Is it possible to exclude H. vagans?

Marion

Here is the picture from H. vagans

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 27-01-2019 00:15
#5

No, Marion, the characters you mentioned work for males, but not for females.
See M. Ackland's key below:

HYLEMYA
Males
1 The two rows of acrostichal setae rather widely separated, between them, at least in front of suture, two rows of fine setulae. T3 with a pv preapical as well as an av preapical seta (S.g. Hylemyza) partita Mg.
Acrostichal setal rows close together, between them no fine setulae. T3 without a pv apical 2
2 Legs not completely black, at least tibia (especially mid and hind tibia) clear yellow or orange 3
Legs completely black or at most t3 obscurely and partly transparent brownish orange when viewed in certain directions 4
3 All femora black at least in basal two-thirds, only tibiae yellow or orange vagans Pz.
Only fore femora black, mid and hind femora yellow or orange as are tibiae nigrimana Mg.
4 Surstylus long and slender, apices slender and curved backwards. T3 entirely black variata Fall.
Surstylus short, widened at apices, curved forwards. T3 often obscurely orange-brown. urbica Wulp

HYLEMYA
Females
1 The two rows of acrostichals rather widely separated, between them at least in front of suture two rows of fine setulae partita Mg.
– Acrostichal rows close together, between them no fine setulae 2
2 All femora black, at most knees lightened variata Schnabl, urbica Wulp
– At least mid and hind femora yellow vagans Pz. nigrimana Mg.

Posted by Marion Friedrich on 27-01-2019 11:06
#6

Hello Nikita,

many thanks for answering my question and the detailed explanation.

Best regards, Marion :)