Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae - Dinera grisescens
Posted by Jessica on 08-12-2018 22:46
#1
Hello,
Can someone help me for this fly ? Is it genus Solieria ?
Saw on the 23.06.2018, south of France.
Edited by Jessica on 30-03-2019 22:51
Posted by John Carr on 09-12-2018 00:31
#2
Antennae are too small for tribe Leskiini. I think it is Dexiini. Maybe
Dinera? Or
Estheria because of closed cell r5. I haven't tried to key it.
Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 09-12-2018 03:59
#3
I think it fits with
Dinera grisescens.
Posted by Jessica on 09-12-2018 09:34
#4
Ok, thank you very much ! I did not see that this species had orange legs.
Posted by Zeegers on 09-12-2018 10:24
#5
it does
Theo
Posted by Jessica on 09-12-2018 11:49
#6
Can some
Estheria have orange legs too ? Because the little petiole of R4+5 seems to fit to this genus.
Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 09-12-2018 20:02
#7
E. bohemani has yellowish tibiae, I think.
Edited by Nacho Cabellos on 09-12-2018 20:03
Posted by Jessica on 09-12-2018 20:15
#8
Ok, thank you !
Si I looked for this specie on the key, but it's said that she has 4 dc behind the suture, and I saw just 3 on mine :s
And for humeral bristle, I don't see well, the quality of images is not very good, but I don't think there is 5 humeral bristle :s
Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 09-12-2018 20:33
#10
And
Estheria usually has discal setae on T3 and T4
Posted by Jessica on 09-12-2018 20:38
#11
Oh ok, so it's not this genus. Not easy !
Posted by Jessica on 10-12-2018 19:15
#12
Is all species have discal setae on T3 and T4 ?
I found this on the web :
https://www.natur...rretti.pdf
The wing seems similar to
Estheria microcera ?
Edited by Jessica on 10-12-2018 19:17
Posted by Sundew on 10-12-2018 20:04
#13
An interesting paper indeed! However, in the overall description of genus
Estheria some characters are given that do not fit your pictured animal, e.g. "mid-dorsal depression on abdominal syntergite 1+2 extending back to hind margin of that segment" and "abdominal tergites 3–5 with discal setae". So I doubt that yours is an
Estheria.
Dinera grisescens (
http://tachinidae...fo/file/65) would be a good match.
Posted by Jessica on 10-12-2018 20:12
#14
Thank you !
The one in the photo is very similar indeed.