Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Bibionidae: Bibio longipes? --> most likely Bibio longipes

Posted by kuv on 14-11-2018 17:47
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Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Pinneberg-Waldenau near Hamburg, at the edge of the mixed forest Klövensteen, at a leaf of Stinging nettle; Outsidephotos: kuv, 16th of October 2017. Perhaps Bibio clavipes? Is my idea ok? Please help to get the ID and whether male or female.
Kuv

Edited by kuv on 17-11-2018 17:40

Posted by kuv on 14-11-2018 17:51
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2nd picture:

Posted by Sundew on 14-11-2018 20:53
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First, we cannot see the tip of the front tibiae, which is needed to discriminate between Bibio and Dilophus. In Bibio, the front tibiae end in a pair of large spurs, in Dilophus there is a circlet of small spines. However, the males of the frequent D. febrilis do not have such swollen hind tibiae and tarsi. So it might be a Bibio indeed.
There are two autums species, B. longipes and B. clavipes (see https://www.flick...177500145/). B. clavipes has a rather pale stigma that does not extend into the tip of the costal cell; I saw it in Brandenburg recently. In your case, I would vote for B. longipes.
Maybe Theo can say more.
Regards, Sundew

Posted by kuv on 15-11-2018 10:12
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Thank you very much Sundew |t . I like your comments and sound information (not only to "my diptera"). I'll change headline with B. longipes and questionmark.
Greetings Kuv

Posted by John Carr on 15-11-2018 21:47
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Sundew wrote:
First, we cannot see the tip of the front tibiae, which is needed to discriminate between Bibio and Dilophus.


Dilophus has a longer r-m crossvein than Bibio and a ridge on the front of the thorax.

Posted by Zeegers on 16-11-2018 18:10
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In males Dilophus, the hind metatarsus is slender.
So I agree with Sundew, most likely Bibio longips for the reasons given by her.
But I am not dead sure

Theo

Posted by kuv on 17-11-2018 17:40
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Thank you very much Sundew, John an Theo.
It's nice to have an ear on the conversation of the experts!
Greetings Kuv