Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ornithomyia ID -> O. chloropus?

Posted by maroo on 16-08-2018 08:12
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Found this fly on birdbanding station, southern Sweden a few days ago

I think it's either a fringillina and chloropus, but is it possible to identify?

Length, about 4 mm


Martin

Edited by maroo on 19-08-2018 07:00

Posted by maroo on 16-08-2018 08:12
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Posted by maroo on 16-08-2018 08:13
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Posted by maroo on 16-08-2018 08:13
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Posted by Tony Irwin on 16-08-2018 08:59
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The size and shape of the eyes suggest to me that this is Ornithomya biloba. Have you got a clear photo of the wing?

Posted by Ectemnius on 16-08-2018 12:10
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Hello maroo & Tony,

I think it is not biloba, that species has a wider frons, see: (https://waarneming.nl/waarneming/view/161271944)
What would help is a photo of the scutellum and indeed the wings.

Due to its size and darkened genea ventrally I'd say O. chloropus…

Kind regards,

Ectemnius

Posted by maroo on 16-08-2018 12:55
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Thanks fore your response!

Regarding photo of the scutellum, Im not sure if i could "produce" better pics with my camera equipment :-/

Here is a photo of the wing anyway.

Martin

Posted by maroo on 17-08-2018 10:54
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By the way, is it the microtrichia on wing that is the key here? or is it the wingpattern?

Do you Ectemnius (or anyone else) have any more opinion on this fly, or safe to call it a chloropus?

Best regards
Martin

Posted by Zeegers on 18-08-2018 08:19
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The wing pattern is slightly off, I don’t know what is going on there.
The microtrichia are pretty difficult to see in practice, it depends on the anlge of light.
You can check for yourslef if there are 4 or 6 bristles around apex of scutellum. If 4 or less, please cjepheck thoroughly for borken bristles, they leave pores.

Theo

Posted by Johane on 08-11-2019 10:13
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Scutellum with three visible bristles. One is missing.

Posted by Johane on 08-11-2019 10:23
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wing with microtrichia

Posted by Johane on 08-11-2019 10:26
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Edited by Johane on 08-11-2019 10:33

Posted by Johane on 08-11-2019 10:34
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ventral side of head