Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black Muscidae: Phaonia atriceps ? No, perhaps Hebecnema sp., female

Posted by kuv on 12-12-2017 17:27
#1

Denmark, island Fyn, Middelfart, coastal area at the Fænøsund, at a leaf of bramble; Outsidephotos: kuv, 31th of July 2016. Is my idea ok? Please help.
Kuv

Edited by kuv on 16-12-2017 14:13

Posted by kuv on 12-12-2017 17:27
#2

2nd picture:

Posted by tristram on 12-12-2017 19:58
#3

Phaonia atriceps should have 3 posterior bristles on its mid tibia. It might be Phaonia halterata which has only 2.

Posted by kuv on 13-12-2017 16:56
#4

Thank you very much tristram :) - so I'll change headline.
Best regards Kuv

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 13-12-2017 21:16
#5

I don't think it is P. halterata, which has 3 post dc and pubescent arista.
I think to a female Hebecnema nigra (I can't see any Phaonia bristle), but I'm bothered because it seems to have a long prealar (and prst acr ?). Very difficult to see.
If really so, it would be something else, but I can't see what.

Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 13-12-2017 21:17

Posted by kuv on 14-12-2017 10:47
#6

Thank you very much Stephane. I think so it still should be named "Muscidae (unidentifiable)" but first I try to give you a better (?) look with an enlargement of the first photo - hoping I had understood you in the right way.
Greetings Kuv

Edited by kuv on 15-12-2017 11:10

Posted by johnes81 on 14-12-2017 12:04
#7

I think that Hebecnema is correct.

Posted by kuv on 15-12-2017 11:15
#8

Thank you very much John and Nini for your assessment.
Greetings Kuv