Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae? genus? = Spallanzania hebes

Posted by johnes81 on 18-11-2017 14:10
#1

Berlin - September 2016

I think that this is a Tachinidae. A genus will be nice and maybe a species is possible. I'll just hope for a genus. I hate the keys of Tschorsnig and I can't place it without genitalia and a specimen. I have tried. Sorry.

Thank You for your Time.

Edited by johnes81 on 20-11-2017 11:09

Posted by Zeegers on 18-11-2017 16:10
#2

Where is it from ?
Pseudogonia or similar.

Theo

Posted by johnes81 on 18-11-2017 16:17
#3

Hello Theo, hope that you are well.

it is from Berlin or do you mean habitat? I found it in sandy heathland. it was just sitting in the sandy area in the sunshine. I couldn't get many photos before it flew away.

I know how difficult it can be to id something even with genitalia, so I don't expect more than a genus. I thought about Pseudogonia before but I cannot key it. As stated in this post, the photo was made in 2016. I gave up on this one; it is driving me nuts. :)

Posted by piros on 19-11-2017 00:33
#4

Could this be Spallanzania?

Greetings,

Henrik

Posted by johnes81 on 19-11-2017 11:30
#5

Hello Henrik, Spallanzania is a fantastic suggestion. I think that you may be correct. I've tried to key it and it matches with what is visible: two upright bristles beside the apex of the scutellum, reclinate ocellar bristles, pale basicosta and black tegula. Thank you for taking time to post, Henrik. I appreciate you :)

edite: only Spallanzania hebes is listed for Germany.

Edited by johnes81 on 19-11-2017 11:33

Posted by johnes81 on 19-11-2017 12:00
#6

here is a closeup showing the ocellar bristles, the scutellar bristles, basicosta and tegula. I've adjusted the midtone and sharpened the image.

Posted by piros on 19-11-2017 23:09
#7

S. hebes was my first thought anyway...

Posted by johnes81 on 20-11-2017 11:09
#8

Thank You, Henrik. I was lost with this one. I cannot use the keys from Tschorsnig without a specimen. He starts with postsutural ia and after that it is a guessing game by photo. However, if one can get to a proper genus, then the keys are usually very good for id by photo. This one was too much. I ened up at strange genera trying to key it. I have no time to spend days on these keys. I've never seen this before, so the only similar species that I could think of as a match is Pseudogonia but it isn't correct. I didn't know about Spallanzania. I appreciate you for posting. I am very Thankful :)