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Posted by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 20:27

Berlin - September - 3.5mm female

Anyone know which family and genus please?
I thought about Muscidae but it looks odd to me. I cannot find a match.

Thank You for your Time and Effort.

Edited by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 22:07

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:13

Reminds me a lot of Coenosia. If it is so, I don't recognize the species. But certainly should be Coenosiinae :)

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:14

Posted by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 21:26

Good evening Piluca, my first impression was Coenosia but I cannot find a match. I figure it is either a rarely photographed Coenosia species or it isn't a Coenosia. I will keep looking in Coenosia genus. Meantime, maybe someone will recognize it. Thanks for your Time Piluca.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:34

Wait a minute... do I see interfrontal bristles? If it is so, it cannot be Coenosiinae (confused now). How many dc does it have? 1+3, 2+3-4? I cannot see it well :(

Posted by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 21:58

Hello Piluca, 1+3. I've attached some photos but I see that Sir Stephane replied with a species. Fantastic! Thank You for helping Piluca :)

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:58

No more to say ;) I should trust gut feeling :D The 1+3 was what I wanted to see ;)

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:59

Posted by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 22:02

#10

Thank You very much Stephane. I have never examined a Coenosia before. I have to laugh because I was looking at C. strigipes but it didn't look exactly the same to my untrained eye. I am happy to know that you recognize it. I want learn more about these flies. I've seen them many times but I've never examined them. I found this one in my living room. This is my first Coenosia under the microscope...

I wish for all a Pleasant Night :)

Posted by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 22:05

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yes, Piluca, you should trust your opinion. You are more knowledgeable than I am about many families. I have no science to my conjecture of Coenosia. Honestly, I just thought that it reminded me of a miniature Helina. Thus, I started searching in Muscidae and figured it should be a Coenosia. You, on the other hand, have a scientific method. You are much more knowledgeable. I have alot to learn but I cannot learn everything in one night. Thank you for helping Piluca :)

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 22:12

#12

John, nobody can learn all in one night. Take it easy and enjoy your learning :) Much fun in Diptera is waiting for you ;)

About my knowledge in Muscidae, my teacher was... Stephane Lebrun :D Loads of reading literature and many questions asked to my teacher. But as you can see, he is still ages head of me ;)