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I've sent a pm to you Theo.

Meantime, I remember all that you say about these. I think that I've read every thread here about Gymnosoma. Thus, I collected this one for id.

I'm not sure if you want specimens from Germany for dna study. But if I come across a strange Gymnosoma, then I will keep in 95% ethanol for you.

Thank You for the info. I will study this one carefully. I will try to find a nudifrons but they are not listed for Berlin. Maybe I will find a first record in the future.

also, I will drop the genitalia in koh tomorrow to clear them a bit better. Then I will make new photos with clove oil. Maybe I can maker nicer photos for reference.