Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Odinia sp.
Posted by Ben Hamers on 01-07-2017 15:09
#1
Could this be Odinia maculata ?
Seen in June in a moor, Southern Limburg, the Netherlands.
Ben
Posted by Ben Hamers on 01-07-2017 15:11
#2
Picture 2
Posted by Ben Hamers on 01-07-2017 15:11
#3
Picture 3
Posted by Jan Maca on 18-07-2017 12:29
#4
This is Neoalticomerus (5 dorsocentrals, Odinia has only 4). N. formosus is known from Germany, other species are possible.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 18-07-2017 13:25
#5
That is a new genus for the Netherlands. :D
Posted by Rui Andrade on 18-07-2017 14:56
#6
Isn't it the other way around? Odinia with 5 pairs of dorsocentrals and Neoalticomerus with 4?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 18-07-2017 15:01
#7
You are right, according to the Contributions to a Manual of Palaearctic Diptera...
Posted by Jan Willem on 18-07-2017 15:05
#8
Indeed, this is Odinia spec., NOT Neoalticomerus. As far as I know currently only Neoalticomerus formosus is known from Europe. This species clearly looks different.
Posted by Jan Maca on 18-07-2017 15:06
#9
You are right. Sorry for the desinformation. It is Odinia, difficult to determine from the photo.
Jan
Posted by Jan Maca on 18-07-2017 15:34
#10
And a note to Neoalticomerus: Except of formosus, there is another species known from France and Hungary - N. fabricius Withers and Papp 2012, Dipterist Digest 19: 59.
Posted by Rui Andrade on 18-07-2017 16:34
#11
Interesting! Can someone send me a copy of Withers & Papp (2012)?
Posted by Jan Willem on 19-07-2017 19:18
#12
Check your mail Rui :-).
Posted by Ben Hamers on 19-07-2017 21:05
#13
Thanks to all of you for your comments.
Ben
Posted by Ectemnius on 19-11-2019 16:09
#14
Hello All,
Came to this topic by accident. To my surprise the question asked in the first post is not answered...
Yes this is Odinia maculata (or trinotata according to the world catalog). Two eye fascia, large black spots at crossveins, dark markings on all antennal segments, brown thoracic vittae and dark legs.
The pictures here included are however still in the gallery as Neoalticomerus:
https://diptera.i...lbum_id=32
And, Neoalticomerus is now known from the Netherlands:
https://www.resea..._Odiniidae :D
Greetings,
Ectemnius
Posted by Paul Beuk on 19-11-2019 16:15
#15
Actually, just one, but I renamed it as
Odinia maculata. I will look in that
trinotata issue later.