Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Musca autumnalis -> Musca sp.

Posted by Gansucha on 24-04-2017 16:53
#1

Ukraine, Rivne region, on March 28.
Musca autumnalis, male ?
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Edited by Gansucha on 05-05-2017 21:38

Posted by Gansucha on 25-04-2017 06:56
#2

No one can say about this ?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 25-04-2017 07:51
#3

I doubt this is M. autumnalis or even larvipara, the frons seems too broad. Maybe M. amita (species only recorded from Ukraine by the way), but with Musca sp. we are wiser.

Posted by Gansucha on 25-04-2017 17:19
#4

Thank you, Stephane !!!
What is the difference between a male of the species ?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 25-04-2017 19:20
#5

Sorry, I'm not sure to understand your question. What's the difference between what and what ?

Posted by Gansucha on 25-04-2017 23:48
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What is the difference between males genus Musca: M. autumnalis, M.larvipara, M. amita, M. domestica ?
Which parts of the body should pay attention when photographing ?

Edited by Gansucha on 25-04-2017 23:51

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 26-04-2017 20:15
#7

First there are many other Musca species : osiris, tempestiva, vitripennis, lucidula, sorbens, albina, crassirostris, ventrosa, xanthomelas...
Some need details which are not visible from photographs (hairs on propleuron, suprasquamal ridge etc.).
Some species are easy to ID though (M. ventrosa for example is the only species with a wholly yellow abdomen), but some species are very close and difficult to separate from pictures (like M. autumnalis/larvipara). These later can be distinguished by the hairiness of suprasquamal ridge and/or the genal distribution of hairiness. Musca domestica has got a broad frons and a rather elongated abdomen (and the propleuron is hairy). I can't write a complete key here of course. For Musca, collecting is the best way to get a reliable identification.

Posted by Gansucha on 26-04-2017 23:39
#8

Of course. Thank you for your time and explanation.