Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipulidae: Tipula confusa ? --> Tipula sp.

Posted by kuv on 09-03-2017 18:02
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Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Schenefeld near Hamburg, at a wall of a house (near a light for nights); Outsidephotos: kuv, 1st of October 2014. To me it - especially the wings - look like Tipula confusa. Is my idea ok? Please help to get the ID.
Kuv

Edited by kuv on 17-12-2017 18:39

Posted by kuv on 09-03-2017 18:04
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2nd pic:

Posted by kuv on 09-03-2017 18:04
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3rd pic:

Posted by kuv on 09-03-2017 18:05
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4th pic:

Posted by kuv on 09-03-2017 18:05
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5th pic:

Posted by kuv on 17-12-2017 12:12
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No chance for ID ?
Greetings Kuv

Posted by Sundew on 17-12-2017 16:55
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This is subgenus Savtshenkia for sure. With the key by Peeters & Oosterbroek (http://ccw.natura..._2016a.pdf) I came close to T. confusa. However, I cannot see the typical comma-shaped white spot in the second basal cell that ist depicted in Figs. F133 and F134. The alternative choice is based on the shape of the genitals. I suppose this is a female, but length and shape of the ovipositor are not recognizable. So the species T. benesignata, T. limbata, T. staegeri, T. alpium, and T. signata remain as possible candidates. Here I am at my wits' end - sorry!
Regards, Sundew

Edited by Sundew on 17-12-2017 16:57

Posted by kuv on 17-12-2017 18:38
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Woow Sundew, thank you very much for your time and effort.
As I have no better shot to see the white spot at the basalcell I have to name it Tipula sp.
Thanks too for the tip to the key by Peeters & Oosterbroek. There are so many details to identify Tipula flies: Great!
Greetings Kuv