Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Empididae for ID, N Spain
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 22-01-2017 19:18
#1
Genus
Empis for sure. Might this be
Empis sinuosa??? Sorry I couldn't photograph the male. I have pictures of a male that matches this female to perfection in the same spot but from last year. If you think it would be interesting I can post it in another thread.
Avilés, Asturias, N Spain in rural area. 28.IV.2016
Thanks in advance for any help :)
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 22-01-2017 19:19
#2
A lateral view.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 22-01-2017 19:20
#3
And last picture, a frontal view.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 30-01-2017 12:15
#4
Not a chance? :-(
Posted by Paul Beuk on 30-01-2017 17:30
#5
[Hesitating...] What was the size?
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 30-01-2017 17:36
#6
Thanks for trying, Paul! :)
Let's say about the size of an
Empis (
Pachymeria) sp. (which clearly is not) or an
Empis (
Leptempis) sp. (I have seen
Empis abdominalis before, and was about its size). Somehow biggish. The pictures were taken with a compact camera and still allowed decent results. So, not precisely a small Empis ;)
It was feeding on a well developed typical Umbeliferae that might be
Oenanthe crocata. Compare the size of the flowers and that should help to have an idea of the size of the fly too.
Good luck and thanks again! :)
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 30-01-2017 17:40
Posted by Paul Beuk on 30-01-2017 18:21
#7
It resembles
Empis tessellata castellana as described in Die Fliegen but I do not know what the present status of the that taxon is.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 15-02-2017 18:29
#8
Paul, I am ashamed for this very late reply :S I have tried to solve the mystery of the status of the taxon for a while. It seems that it is
Empis (
Euempis)
morio nowadays. But I forgot to say something here... Disgraceful.
The problem is that i believe (I might be wrong) that
Empis morio has a dark F1. And there is something dirturbing in this fly for
Euempis: bristles on legs don't seem to be strong enough. I think it should belong to another subgenus. But of course, only my thoughts ;)
Anyway, thanks a lot for the effort, I am/was completely concious of the difficulty :)
Best
Piluca
Posted by Paul Beuk on 16-02-2017 07:36
#9
Well, one of the Mediterranean
Polyblepharis species is also possible.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 16-02-2017 23:41
#10
Thanks again, Paul!! :) I am going to try in that direction ;)